ETF2L – Latest activity in “Backspawning as medic” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31545/ Reply by Adeel https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31545/page-3/?recent=534615#post=534615 Quoted from Fuxx
I don't see how it can be used to gain speed, but it can be used to stick yourself to certain spots where you are not supposed to be.
]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31545&post=534615 Fri, 15 May 2015 05:14:28 +0200 Reply by Sideshow https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31545/page-3/?recent=534615#post=534614 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31545&post=534614 Fri, 15 May 2015 04:58:47 +0200 Reply by Adeel https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31545/page-3/?recent=534615#post=534613 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31545&post=534613 Fri, 15 May 2015 04:56:43 +0200 Reply by Fuxx https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31545/page-3/?recent=534615#post=534611 Quoted from unu
[...] That's not edgebugging though, that's pixel walking. Edgebugging is when you "surf" off edges to take no fall damage and/or gain speed.
Edgebugging is when the collision detection bugs over a frame and your playermodel gets stuck inside a world brush or playerclip. It's not surfing in that aspect and yes it can be abused to prevent fall damage since you stop falling but never hit any "ground", just get stuck id-air. I don't see how it can be used to gain speed, but it can be used to stick yourself to certain spots where you are not supposed to be. Certain locations seem to be easier to edgebug onto, such as the crates in Granary mid for example, but I might be wrong about that. Didn't test on the new version either. There's also an invisible wall on pl_upward that seems to work somewhat commonly.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31545&post=534611 Fri, 15 May 2015 04:29:34 +0200 Reply by Mervin https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31545/page-3/?recent=534615#post=534607 Quoted from spammyh
If edge bugging would be illegal then RIP everyone who used solly spot under the skybox at earlier version of granary. Also no, let's not change something that's bothering noone and been out there for quite some time.
That's not edgebugging though, that's pixel walking. Edgebugging is when you "surf" off edges to take no fall damage and/or gain speed.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31545&post=534607 Fri, 15 May 2015 04:05:07 +0200 Reply by spammy https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31545/page-2/?recent=534615#post=534592 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31545&post=534592 Fri, 15 May 2015 02:28:03 +0200 Reply by Zorsaah https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31545/page-2/?recent=534615#post=534529 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31545&post=534529 Thu, 14 May 2015 22:12:34 +0200 Reply by dnscodcs https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31545/page-2/?recent=534615#post=534527 Quoted from Fuxx
The “Valve didn’t intend on it” argument is really dubious for such small things. You can also say that Valve did not intend for cheeky roaming soldiers to be able to sit in certain map spots from which they can drop the medic/backcap, but such map tricks aren’t banned. Edgebugging is also allowed as far as I know and that’s an actual abuse of the in-game engine malfunctioning.
You informations are wrong. Bugs of any sort are not alllowed. We even have a rule for that:
6.1 Bug-Using is not allowed Any kind of “Bug-Using” is not allowed. Player using bugs will be punished. If you are unsure about the legality of any sneaky spot on a map, please contact an admin to clarify the situation and prevent complaints from your opponent.
I'm confused as to what makes you think that exploiting the game is ok, just because it rarely (or never) happens doesn't mean that it's not forbidden.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31545&post=534527 Thu, 14 May 2015 22:07:53 +0200 Reply by ashnazg https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31545/page-2/?recent=534615#post=534524 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31545&post=534524 Thu, 14 May 2015 21:56:21 +0200 Reply by Permzilla https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31545/page-2/?recent=534615#post=534521 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31545&post=534521 Thu, 14 May 2015 21:50:14 +0200 Reply by Fuxx https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31545/page-2/?recent=534615#post=534516 Quoted from ducky
[...] The argument isn't about back-spawning, nobody says that backspawning in itself is a bug or a questionable feature. The problem that OP is trying to adress is that this specific kind of backspawn (changing hats to keep the ubercharge) could be considered a bug since valve didn't intend it to be done this way. After all a medic regularely backspawning (by changing to another class then changing back again) would lose the uber.
The "Valve didn't intend on it" argument is really dubious for such small things. You can also say that Valve did not intend for cheeky roaming soldiers to be able to sit in certain map spots from which they can drop the medic/backcap, but such map tricks aren't banned. Edgebugging is also allowed as far as I know and that's an actual abuse of the in-game engine malfunctioning.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31545&post=534516 Thu, 14 May 2015 21:23:08 +0200 Reply by dnscodcs https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31545/page-2/?recent=534615#post=534514 Quoted from fraac
How would you even enforce it?
If this was to be declared a bug then admins could watch the STV demo of matches where teams suspect this to have happened, then default the round/s in question if necessary.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31545&post=534514 Thu, 14 May 2015 21:17:19 +0200 Reply by Muriel https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31545/page-2/?recent=534615#post=534512 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31545&post=534512 Thu, 14 May 2015 21:06:57 +0200 Reply by feeling blue https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31545/page-2/?recent=534615#post=534511 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31545&post=534511 Thu, 14 May 2015 20:48:06 +0200 Reply by fraac https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31545/page-2/?recent=534615#post=534510 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31545&post=534510 Thu, 14 May 2015 20:47:37 +0200