ETF2L – Latest activity in “ETF2L needs to be more noob-friendly”

ETF2L – Latest activity in “ETF2L needs to be more noob-friendly” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31520/ Reply by Jim Williams https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31520/page-4/?recent=538416#post=538416 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31520&post=538416 Wed, 24 Jun 2015 19:35:38 +0200 Reply by RTC https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31520/page-3/?recent=538416#post=534548 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31520&post=534548 Thu, 14 May 2015 23:34:56 +0200 Reply by dnscodcs https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31520/page-3/?recent=538416#post=534547 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31520&post=534547 Thu, 14 May 2015 23:32:04 +0200 Reply by Zorsaah https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31520/page-3/?recent=538416#post=534386 Quoted from Nevo

The easiest thing would be to add a "Make a new recruitement post" in the Recruitement tab itself. Would be a lot easier to intuitively click on Recruitement and then see a big button to create your own post. Add a visual line like "Open < Mid < High < Prem" above the chatbox where you choose your div, no more confusions.

this.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31520&post=534386 Wed, 13 May 2015 17:45:29 +0200 Reply by Kaneco https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31520/page-3/?recent=538416#post=534384 Quoted from ducky

[...] 'Cluttering up the site for the benefit of that kind of person' is not in our interest whatsoever, no need to worry there.

What about showing an infobox on the main page with the guide only for people with no official games recorded, or with less than x official games recorded, or with an account with less than 6 months for example?]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31520&post=534384 Wed, 13 May 2015 17:24:19 +0200 Reply by dnscodcs https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31520/page-3/?recent=538416#post=534377 Quoted from prof

The whole recruitment section is a bit confusing at first, but there are resources there for people to use. The kind of people who are jumping straight into commenting on prem player posts with "herp derp i topscore in pubs can i play please" are going to be the kind of people who would just immediately close the FAQ if it flashed up on the screen the first time you visit the site. I really don't understand why so many people seem to think cluttering up the site for the benefit of that kind of person is so important.

To be fair, while there are resources that can be used to figure out a multitude of things (forums and admin support come to mind) people do make a valid point by saying that an explanation of the recruitment section is not included in the current guide. This and some other issues will be fixed in the updated guide (which btw is 80% finished), so the reasonable portion of feedback has been aknowledged and will be implemented. However access and visibility of the guide itself will remain as it is. Like you said, it's the first thing that people get redirected to when creating an account, even if someone was to click it away or wanted to visit it afterwards they can find it incredibly easily through the help tab at the top of every page. 'Cluttering up the site for the benefit of that kind of person' is not in our interest whatsoever, no need to worry there.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31520&post=534377 Wed, 13 May 2015 15:59:18 +0200 Reply by Kaneco https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31520/page-3/?recent=538416#post=534375 Quoted from prof

I really don't understand why so many people seem to think cluttering up the site for the benefit of that kind of person is so important. Kaneco's just on the warpath again.

Apparently giving constructive criticism and actively trying to help people is being on the "warpath". If that's all you took away from my 300 word post then I feel sorry for you.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31520&post=534375 Wed, 13 May 2015 15:31:22 +0200 Reply by RTC https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31520/page-3/?recent=538416#post=534369 Quoted from freshmeatt

Also, not to be a negative nancy, but I see a lot of people being hopeful about matchmaking. Why do you think it will be any different than tf2lobby?

Honestly, my outlook on matchmaking will be that it's nowhere near as good as it's being made out to be. Not bad, just disappointing. I think most people will agree that the concept itself is excellent, which is going to draw more people to look into competitive alternatives. Enter ETF2L, UGC and the other various leagues to attract the resurgence of users.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31520&post=534369 Wed, 13 May 2015 12:20:52 +0200 Reply by freshmeatt https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31520/page-3/?recent=538416#post=534367 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31520&post=534367 Wed, 13 May 2015 11:43:46 +0200 Reply by Bloodis https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31520/page-3/?recent=538416#post=534366 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31520&post=534366 Wed, 13 May 2015 11:09:09 +0200 Reply by RTC https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31520/page-3/?recent=538416#post=534365 Quoted from torrit

[...] harsh words from someone whos been here for literally 7 months

It really doesn't matter if I've been here for 7 months or 7 minutes, if someone is actively being a dick for no good reason, I have every right to call them out on it. For myself personally, I think the highest priority at this moment in time is to fix up and enhance the newcomer guide. Whether that means it's a matter undertaken by the staff or by respected members of the community is very much debatable at this moment in time.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31520&post=534365 Wed, 13 May 2015 10:56:41 +0200 Reply by F1re https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31520/page-3/?recent=538416#post=534361 Quoted from Popcorp

[...] http://i.imgur.com/lNbrXPf.jpg Literally 1 minute, Content aware + Clone stamp in Photoshop :^)

Not everyone got a cracked Photoshop :(]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31520&post=534361 Wed, 13 May 2015 08:55:23 +0200 Reply by popcorp https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31520/page-3/?recent=538416#post=534354 Quoted from prof

[...] Making a little guide within the help section for how to use the wordpress backend is a good addition to make though. Also popcorp is right, every time I write an article I intend to ask Ygg to make a banner without the "sign up now" and every time I'm too lazy to actually do it. My bad.

http://i.imgur.com/lNbrXPf.jpg Literally 1 minute, Content aware + Clone stamp in Photoshop :^)]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31520&post=534354 Wed, 13 May 2015 02:10:09 +0200 Reply by profsciencephd https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31520/page-3/?recent=538416#post=534348 Quoted from Twiggy

[...] Good idea, i'm sure if you are in uni your teachers will be pleased to adopt this attitude with you, they'll save a lot of time for sure.

It's funny, because that's exactly how it works. What you get out of the experience is related to how much you're willing to put in yourself. The whole recruitment section is a bit confusing at first, but there are resources there for people to use. The kind of people who are jumping straight into commenting on prem player posts with "herp derp i topscore in pubs can i play please" are going to be the kind of people who would just immediately close the FAQ if it flashed up on the screen the first time you visit the site. I really don't understand why so many people seem to think cluttering up the site for the benefit of that kind of person is so important. Kaneco's just on the warpath again. Making a little guide within the help section for how to use the wordpress backend is a good addition to make though. Also popcorp is right, every time I write an article I intend to ask Ygg to make a banner without the "sign up now" and every time I'm too lazy to actually do it. My bad.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31520&post=534348 Wed, 13 May 2015 01:29:51 +0200 Reply by popcorp https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-31520/page-3/?recent=538416#post=534321 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=31520&post=534321 Tue, 12 May 2015 16:16:25 +0200