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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;A more liberal whitelist?&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by Tom Spillfat</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-30191/page-2/?recent=510697#post=510697</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from rockie</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

you must be kidding dude</blockquote>

Nope, i think some more variety could be fun. Obviously the broken unlocks would be left out, and by that i mean gamebreaking stuff. Include the DH if you wish, but other ones would be lnl, wrangler, sc, dds, pbpp, jarate, mad milk, sandman, quickfix, gru, tomislaw, natascha, gunslinger etc. They are banned for a good reason.

But I dont really see how stuff like the shortstop, stickyjumper, detonator or scoRes would break the game... They are hardly going to get picked over stock in any but a few rare situations, as they are pretty weak unlocks.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 18:01:40 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Tom Spillfat</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-30191/page-2/?recent=510697#post=510693</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Setlet</i>
		<blockquote>It would be possible to add every worthless unlock just to make the whitelist look more liberal, but what's the point?</blockquote>

Well, im not talking worthless unlocks - but situationally usefull ones... Besides, is there any point in banning useless unlocks?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 17:52:34 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Zorsaah</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-30191/page-2/?recent=510697#post=510674</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Powerjack some beautiful day. I just want to be a scout-pyro.
;__;]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 16:30:32 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Rock</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-30191/page-2/?recent=510697#post=510650</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Tom Spillfat</i>
		<blockquote>Why don't we do like the americans and allow some unlocks that arent broken, but add the option to sometimes play things differently? I'm talking stuff like the shortstop, market gardener, sticky and rocket jumper, backburner, scoRes, some pyro flareguns, booties, deadringer, targe etc. A more controversial one would be the direct hit, which could be an interesting alternative to stock imo. It doesnt strike me as OP in 6s just because of how seldom its used in ESEA despite being allowed. yeah, airshots all day, but no splash is a big deal.

Thoughts? I'm expecting a lot of you to disagree - but keep it civil lads! :)</blockquote>

you must be kidding dude]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 14:09:58 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by ashnazg</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-30191/page-2/?recent=510697#post=510638</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[If you've played the recent seasons you probably have noticed that we gradually allow more and more unlocks each season. Do you expect this season to be different?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 11:59:06 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by gilad1280</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-30191/page-1/?recent=510697#post=510629</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Popcorp</i>
		<blockquote>allow Market gardener, so that Roamer class becomes much more fun 8)</blockquote>
like there is not enough braindead roamer mains.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 11:00:00 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Morph</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Selek</i>


<blockquote>[...]


This is actually an interesting thought. The sticky nerf is supposed to come, I doubt Valve will consider current seasons when it does. Who knows how the nerf will look like.


</blockquote>
Stickies get removed from the game and Demoknight will be stock.


On topic: I don’t care about useless/highly situational unlocks, but some stuff is seriously broken in 6v6 or changes the way it’s played too heavily, like Dead Ringer, Reserve Shooter, Direct Hit, Loch’n’Load, etc.


I’d really like to see the Market Gardener whitelisted though. Just for the heck of it. (But I guess it's too bugged right now with the bunnyhops)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 10:43:50 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by RaNDoMiZe</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-30191/page-1/?recent=510697#post=510627</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Selek</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Who knows how the nerf will look like.</blockquote>

Stickies can't be detonated before they hit the ground or splash radius ramp-up are my guesses.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 10:42:00 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Selektionsfaktor</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-30191/page-1/?recent=510697#post=510603</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from fraac</i>
		<blockquote>Demoman unlocks should be allowed or you'll have the same midseason panic when they nerf stickies.</blockquote>

This is actually an interesting thought. The sticky nerf is supposed to come, I doubt Valve will consider current seasons when it does. Who knows how the nerf will look like.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 03:29:46 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by popcorp</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-30191/page-1/?recent=510697#post=510580</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[allow Market gardener, so that Roamer class becomes much more fun 8)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 02:20:55 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Bloodis</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-30191/page-1/?recent=510697#post=510577</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Permzilla</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

soon...</blockquote>

All Heavy unlocks allowed soon?

buy dragon minigun]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 01:07:47 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Setlet</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-30191/page-1/?recent=510697#post=510576</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[It would be possible to add every worthless unlock just to make the whitelist look more liberal, but what's the point?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 01:05:58 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by fraac</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-30191/page-1/?recent=510697#post=510575</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Demoman unlocks should be allowed or you'll have the same midseason panic when they nerf stickies.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 01:04:28 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Solid Speerlaiye</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-30191/page-1/?recent=510697#post=510574</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Permzilla</i>
		<blockquote>soon...</blockquote>
No.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 01:01:11 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Permzilla</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-30191/page-1/?recent=510697#post=510572</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from misiek</i>
		<blockquote>6v6 =/= HL</blockquote>

soon...]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 00:57:21 +0200</pubDate>
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