ETF2L – Latest activity in “HL Playoff positions decided by a points deduction”

ETF2L – Latest activity in “HL Playoff positions decided by a points deduction” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-28543/ Reply by Scissors-HL https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-28543/page-4/?recent=494672#post=494672 Quoted from CanFo

[...] If you have not been around for so long, you might think that.

I can see why it is annoying, but I see no reason to be so strict about it. Admirable made a good point on the matchpage of the stacked-scandal; either you stick 100% to your rules, or you make them all open for interpretation.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=28543&post=494672 Tue, 29 Apr 2014 12:57:10 +0200 Reply by Fuxx https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-28543/page-4/?recent=494672#post=494648 Quoted from Reservoir Dog

[...] Maybe not for you, but it is an issue for people who aren't familiar with HL prem circle jerk, for example some casters and likely a big portion of casual players watching the stream. The rule was implemented because people were taking the nick name bit too far, so it had to be clear cut - as CanFo pointed out.

All in favor of removing loophole abusers that prevent us from having good things say aye]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=28543&post=494648 Tue, 29 Apr 2014 02:07:43 +0200 Reply by CannonFodd3r https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-28543/page-4/?recent=494672#post=494637 Quoted from Scissors

[...] this would be a valid argument if it was actually even a problem in the first place. It literally has no impact on the game whatsoever.

If you have not been around for so long, you might think that.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=28543&post=494637 Tue, 29 Apr 2014 00:46:49 +0200 Reply by reservoir_dog https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-28543/page-4/?recent=494672#post=494633 Quoted from Scissors

[...] this would be a valid argument if it was actually even a problem in the first place. It literally has no impact on the game whatsoever.

Maybe not for you, but it is an issue for people who aren't familiar with HL prem circle jerk, for example some casters and likely a big portion of casual players watching the stream. The rule was implemented because people were taking the nick name bit too far, so it had to be clear cut - as CanFo pointed out.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=28543&post=494633 Mon, 28 Apr 2014 23:35:24 +0200 Reply by Scissors-HL https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-28543/page-3/?recent=494672#post=494632 Quoted from CanFo

[...] people will find a way to abuse it.

this would be a valid argument if it was actually even a problem in the first place. It literally has no impact on the game whatsoever.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=28543&post=494632 Mon, 28 Apr 2014 23:29:12 +0200 Reply by CannonFodd3r https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-28543/page-3/?recent=494672#post=494630 Quoted from EmilioEstevez

[...] The game wasn't even being casted and pretty much anybody who isn't being needlessly argumentative would have known it was jamal. [...]

Where would you draw the line? Would "J4m4l" have been ok? What about "_|4/\/\4|_"? Or maybe "⠚⠁⠍⠁⠇" or "йамал"? Would "lamaj" have been ok? They all mean "Jamal", after all... My point is: If the rule has no clear cut, people will find a way to abuse it.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=28543&post=494630 Mon, 28 Apr 2014 22:51:22 +0200 Reply by Permzilla https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-28543/page-3/?recent=494672#post=494629 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=28543&post=494629 Mon, 28 Apr 2014 22:49:33 +0200 Reply by EmilioEstevez https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-28543/page-3/?recent=494672#post=494628 Quoted from Spike Himself

[...] Look at them closely. You may notice that they are not entirely the same.

The game wasn't even being casted and pretty much anybody who isn't being needlessly argumentative would have known it was jamal. Yes, technically we broke the rules and got punished which is fine. But it makes the league look stupid when its clear to everyone that enforcing the letter of the law in this case clearly goes against the intention of the rule. It's also kind of annoying when even very recently we've seen the admins disregard the wording of the rules to make rulings based upon what they think the rules are trying to achieve.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=28543&post=494628 Mon, 28 Apr 2014 22:35:15 +0200 Reply by Spike Himself https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-28543/page-3/?recent=494672#post=494614 Quoted from Solid

[...] I can't.

Look at them closely. You may notice that they are not entirely the same.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=28543&post=494614 Mon, 28 Apr 2014 19:01:42 +0200 Reply by Solid Speerlaiye https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-28543/page-3/?recent=494672#post=494612 Quoted from Spike Himself

[...] Jatmatl Jamal Yeah I can see why.

I can't.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=28543&post=494612 Mon, 28 Apr 2014 18:46:06 +0200 Reply by Spike Himself https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-28543/page-3/?recent=494672#post=494611 Quoted from EmilioEstevez

[...] We got a warning because Jamal was named J@m@l

Jatmatl Jamal Yeah I can see why.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=28543&post=494611 Mon, 28 Apr 2014 18:36:30 +0200 Reply by EmilioEstevez https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-28543/page-3/?recent=494672#post=494545 Quoted from Sideshow

[...] Not adding anything here other than to point out that I used the name "Sideshow adminsRfroglovers". The rule with nicknames is that your official nickname has to be easily identifiable for casters, whatever is after that (assuming it's not horrific) isn't relevant.

We got a warning because Jamal was named J@m@l]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=28543&post=494545 Mon, 28 Apr 2014 00:30:12 +0200 Reply by Sideshow https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-28543/page-3/?recent=494672#post=494524 Quoted from Hildreth

[...]I still remember Sideshow using the nickname in one of our matches "AdminsRfroglovers". Quid pro quo.

Not adding anything here other than to point out that I used the name "Sideshow adminsRfroglovers". The rule with nicknames is that your official nickname has to be easily identifiable for casters, whatever is after that (assuming it's not horrific) isn't relevant.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=28543&post=494524 Sun, 27 Apr 2014 21:33:25 +0200 Reply by Scissors-HL https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-28543/page-3/?recent=494672#post=494521 Quoted from kaidus

The rule needs changing because you didn't read the rule? There are obvious reasons why nicknames aren't submitted on match pages.

There is no reason to have rules just to have rules. You shouldn't be punished for someone playing under their normal nickname. It's retarded.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=28543&post=494521 Sun, 27 Apr 2014 21:15:47 +0200 Reply by kaidus https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-28543/page-3/?recent=494672#post=494509 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=28543&post=494509 Sun, 27 Apr 2014 20:29:32 +0200