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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;[Request] Canalzone2 HL cup.&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by The_Burger</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27822/page-1/?recent=481962#post=481962</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Munky</i>
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Season 10 summer season against itsallgood. It felt totally wrong for highlander, was unsatisfying and underwhelming. At least in my opinion. 
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<i>Quoted from Hildreth</i>
		<blockquote>Canalzone is the worst map I have ever played on in UGC so I should hope it is never considered to be put in the map rotation at all. </blockquote>

This is the first Canalzone from 2008, and yes it was unbalanced and unsuitable for Highlander play. But I'm talking about <strong>Canalzone2_beta</strong>, a tweeked version that is pretty different, and not just visually.

<i>Quoted from Hildreth</i>
		<blockquote>For organising of HL cups to try maps, I'd rather see better maps with more potential used.</blockquote>

cp_indulge for HL. If you don't want cz2, at least indulge :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2014 21:52:22 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Hildreth</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27822/page-1/?recent=481962#post=481882</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Canalzone is the worst map I have ever played on in UGC so I should hope it is never considered to be put in the map rotation at all. For organising of HL cups to try maps, I'd rather see better maps with more potential used.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2014 15:20:18 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Cuttlefish</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27822/page-1/?recent=481962#post=481874</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from quell</i>
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etf2l should host some bi-weekly HL cups until the new season.</blockquote>

Good idea, I'd like this!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2014 14:15:26 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Munkyman</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27822/page-1/?recent=481962#post=481873</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from quell</i>
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you've played canalzone2 in ugc? when? :)


etf2l should host some bi-weekly HL cups until the new season.</blockquote>

Season 10 summer season against itsallgood. It felt totally wrong for highlander, was unsatisfying and underwhelming. At least in my opinion. 

I would love to see a few cups hosted. Might help make the map pool a little more adventurous.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2014 14:10:23 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Jonaz69</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27822/page-1/?recent=481962#post=481872</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Zimmer</i>
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Was preseason match in s09 ? I think.</blockquote>

preseason in s9 was pl waste v2]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2014 13:55:07 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by ThaZimmer</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27822/page-1/?recent=481962#post=481870</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from quell</i>
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you've played canalzone2 in ugc? when? :)


etf2l should host some bi-weekly HL cups until the new season.</blockquote>

Was preseason match in s09 ? I think.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2014 13:01:09 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Quell</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27822/page-1/?recent=481962#post=481868</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Munky</i>
		<blockquote>Because that map is more flawed than ctf. I have played it in UGC and it just isn't enjoyable. Much better to use one of the cups to try out maps that actually have a chance of being played or at least could be improved.</blockquote>
you've played canalzone2 in ugc? when? :)


etf2l should host some bi-weekly HL cups until the new season.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2014 12:00:14 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Munkyman</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27822/page-1/?recent=481962#post=481835</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Because that map is more flawed than ctf. I have played it in UGC and it just isn't enjoyable. Much better to use one of the cups to try out maps that actually have a chance of being played or at least could be improved.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2014 00:50:45 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Quell</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27822/page-1/?recent=481962#post=481834</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[im sure we'll see some hl cups after s7

(i support your suggestion)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2014 00:45:13 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by The_Burger</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27822/page-1/?recent=481962#post=481732</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Toba</i>
		<blockquote>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14

Maybe in fun cups....</blockquote>

Why am I not surprised.
There was already an arena cup, a vaccinator cup, a quickfix cup and a ctf cup, so why not a domination cup ? And since Standin is meh, Canalzone2 was a better choice.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 04 Jan 2014 17:08:09 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Toba</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27822/page-1/?recent=481962#post=481729</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14

Maybe in fun cups....]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 04 Jan 2014 16:49:06 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Created by The_Burger</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27822/page-1/?recent=481962#post=481727</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[The last suggestion was made in late 2008, so I assume it's safe to post a new one.



For those of you who played TFC or even QWTF, you may still remember the domination map CZ: it is a domination mode map, but unlike Standin, there are more points, that cap faster, and increment a team "domination score". The more CPs you hold, the more points you’ll get over time for your domination score. The first team to reach a score of 100%, or to hold all the points for 20 seconds wins.

The first, "oldschool" version of Canalzone, made for tf2 by Vilepickle in 2008, was played in HL S7 of ugc. But this version showed that 8 points was too much, even for 9v9, and that Red had a sizable map advantage.

Canalzone2 (beta4) has kept the 6 points closest to the "centre" of the map (if I recall, boat house and the side storage where removed). It also greatly improved the general balance (you're no longer screwed if you are Blu) and is overall quite different.

CZ2 was also made by Vilepickle, based on the feedback gathered after the UGC season. <a href="http://www.ugcleague.com/forum/showthread.php?4892-dom_canalzone2&#038;highlight=canalzone2">UGC Discussion</a>

Download for the curious ones :<a href="http://www.vilepickle.com/creations/maps/canalzone2">http://www.vilepickle.com/creations/maps/canalzone2</a>.



The advantage of a fun cup is that only motivated teams willing to play a something fairly different will be interested, as I don't see this being included in a full season any time soon.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 04 Jan 2014 16:43:26 +0100</pubDate>
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