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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;[Highlander Season 5] Schedule Feedback&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by 1337Wince</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27788/page-2/?recent=481251#post=481251</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[1) Did you enjoy having the longer season?

Yes. It probably was a pretty important factor in making sure there was enough time for UGC HL aswell. 

2) How did you find the overlap between 6v6 Season 16 and Highlander Season 5? Was it an issue?

Wasn't an issue at all. I got to play all matches in S5, S16 and S11 UGC on top of eachothers. I played all WirePlay matches too, but I can't remember if this was going on during S5. I do probably have more time on my hands than most other people though.

3) Are there any other issues you found as a result of the changed schedule?

Nope.

4) How would you like Season 6 to be run? (Same as Season 5? Revert Back to Season 4? Or a mixture of both?)

Probably like it was this season. However, I feel there should be some sort of penalty for dropping that effects individual players too. Last season I think like half of our subdiv dropped, now 1 dropped and 1 forfeited giving us a default. (And this was on my fav maps too D:) Probably a bit off-topic though.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2013 20:38:34 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Flappy</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27788/page-1/?recent=481251#post=481246</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[1) Did you enjoy having the longer season?
Yeah, it made it a lot more competitive, and wasn't as punishing for those with a bad start to the season or similar

2) How did you find the overlap between 6v6 Season 16 and Highlander Season 5? Was it an issue?
Our team didn't have any issues with it, in general I think UGC playoffs would've had a bigger impact

3) Are there any other issues you found as a result of the changed schedule?
Scheduling the last game of the season was slightly difficult due to christmas, and we didn't want to leave it until after, but it was all sorted in the end.

4) How would you like Season 6 to be run? (Same as Season 5? Revert Back to Season 4? Or a mixture of both?)
I'd like season 6 to be run the same, but perhaps try starting season 7 earlier if it's in winter again, to stop potential issues from christmas.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2013 19:03:29 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Toba</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27788/page-1/?recent=481251#post=481238</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<strong>1) Did you enjoy having the longer season?</strong>

Yes

<strong>2) How did you find the overlap between 6v6 Season 16 and Highlander Season 5? Was it an issue? </strong>

Not that much hazzle, it was more of a problem with some of the opponents who had 6s players.

<strong>3) Are there any other issues you found as a result of the changed schedule?</strong>

It was too close to Christmas, since teams will get wildcarded + playoffs/tiebreakers. Also the holidays means no practice and incomplete roster. But with some extended time-frames in January, it can be resolved.

<strong>4) How would you like Season 6 to be run? (Same as Season 5? Revert Back to Season 4? Or a mixture of both?)</strong>

Same as S5 but with maybe a bit more weeks to catch-up for those who get issues. But it should be better since there aren't that many big holidays coming up in spring. I think the current amount of wildcards should remain.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2013 17:13:30 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Linus</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27788/page-1/?recent=481251#post=481231</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<strong>1) Did you enjoy having the longer season?</strong>

Yes, it's good.

<strong>2) How did you find the overlap between 6v6 Season 16 and Highlander Season 5? Was it an issue?</strong>

Yes. For us its a special case because we have core players that are basically always in playoffs. In the past seasons this wasn't much of an issue - we always just used 1 wildcard or had 1 hard to schedule game to avoid clashes. This season the 6v6 playoffs practically spawned across most of our season due to 6v6 scheduling difficulties.

To clarify, if the playoffs ended in a sensible timeframe, this wouldn't have been as much of an issue.

<strong>3) Are there any other issues you found as a result of the changed schedule?</strong>

God yes. I think we're obviously part responsible, and there's a certain amount of unlucky coincidence in all this, but for us this season was a trainwreck. We've had at least 3 occasions where we had a game scheduled but there was noshow/wildcard in the last moment. This was crippling to us in combination with having to dodge around 6v6 schedule.

People are probably aware, but we usually practice and prepare for officials pretty extensively. We play the map we need to play for a few days, then schedule a pcw before the official to play. We tried to go by this system for this season aswell, and we have played A LOT of practice games, usually for nothing, wasting timeslots we could've used for officials.

Of course, we had done the same on at least one occasion(I knew kaidus would be away for a week late december, I just didnt think the season would actually last that long), (our 2nd wildcard got wasted when there was a complete communication breakdown from a team that folded anyway..) but the amount of games being delayed / wildcarded / not played just completely killed off our motivation. We're going to have to play the remaining 3 games with a crippled roster and zero practice.

<strong>4) How would you like Season 6 to be run? (Same as Season 5? Revert Back to Season 4? Or a mixture of both?)</strong>

In theory the number of wildcards is fine, since its the same amount as in 6v6 (where you have the same amount of weeks) and there it works fine. But it just didn't work too well in highlander, at least in the top division. I am sure that in other divs it wasn't as much of an issue. So I'd say keep it as is and hope for less unlucky coincidences next season.

However I think the playoffs for 6v6 should just be over much quicker.  It's fairly pointless to drag it out for so long, I am sure lots of people have lost interest in it anyway by the end.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2013 07:50:10 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Tuto</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27788/page-1/?recent=481251#post=481224</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[1) Yeah definitely, more teams to play and more exciting competition.
2) Didn't really affect me
3) Not really
4) If it's gonna be the same as season 5, that's just perfect. Except for one thing already mentioned above. One less wildcard would be great.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2013 01:20:02 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Quell</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27788/page-1/?recent=481251#post=481219</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[1) Did you enjoy having the longer season?
yes. more games = more fun, especially given that there's always one or two teams that drop out/give default wins.
2) How did you find the overlap between 6v6 Season 16 and Highlander Season 5? Was it an issue?
wasn't an issue at all for our team.
3) Are there any other issues you found as a result of the changed schedule?
x
4) How would you like Season 6 to be run? (Same as Season 5? Revert Back to Season 4? Or a mixture of both?)
keep it like this season. maybe do something about wildcards, giving teams just 1 instead of 2.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2013 00:05:43 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by b33p_</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27788/page-1/?recent=481251#post=481217</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[1) Did you enjoy having the longer season? 
Yes, a team dropped from our division but it wasn't nearly as annoying as this was in previous seasons.

2) How did you find the overlap between 6v6 Season 16 and Highlander Season 5? Was it an issue?
It was a bit of an issue but if it has to happen then we'll find a way to deal with it.

3) Are there any other issues you found as a result of the changed schedule?
n/a

4) How would you like Season 6 to be run? (Same as Season 5? Revert Back to Season 4? Or a mixture of both?)
Like Season 5.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 27 Dec 2013 23:59:02 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by nijoonen</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27788/page-1/?recent=481251#post=481143</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[We had some bad time getting games happening, but hey that's what wildcards are for and i'm a big fan of wildcards, even tho it sucks when games dosen't happen. 

The clash with the 6s sure is a bit annoying but it works out, perhaps you need to spend a wildcard, take a minor or get a bad default date, but hey, it's just a small overlap.

Keep it like this, and if there was some change that had to be made, try to minimize the 6s overlap even more.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 27 Dec 2013 02:15:18 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Permzilla</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27788/page-1/?recent=481251#post=481129</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[http://etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-18475

- It is unlikely that an admin will set a default date to Friday or Saturday evening but it might still happen, if one team states a good reason for choosing this date and the other does not respond to the proposals at all.

Basically schedule your games and it isn't an issue.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 27 Dec 2013 00:33:08 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Mentelex</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27788/page-1/?recent=481251#post=481128</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[1. A lot more enjoyable, yes
2. Not at all, I could schedule everything easily
3. Def dates but rest was fine
4. Keep it like this please, it was much better than last season]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 27 Dec 2013 00:29:41 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Scissors-HL</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27788/page-1/?recent=481251#post=481125</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[1) Yes
2) No
3) No
4) Didn't play last season, but this one was fun, so keep it like this]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2013 23:58:06 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by MAR5</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27788/page-1/?recent=481251#post=481124</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[1) Yes, much better than having 2 matches in a season because 2 teams in your group decide to drop :x
2) I don't think it was much of an issue but it can get a bit of a hassle if you have UGC HL going on as well.
3) Not really
4) Season 5 was much more enjoyable]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2013 23:36:49 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Jonaz69</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27788/page-1/?recent=481251#post=481123</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[1) Yes
2) Didn't affect me
3) Default dates on fridays or saturdays is the shit
4) S5 was coolio]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2013 23:26:58 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by TheJayBelmont</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27788/page-1/?recent=481251#post=481122</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[1) Yes, gave more competition and imo led to a more tense battle for 1st place
2) I'm a sub on a 6v6 team, but it wasn't as bad as it could've been
3) Just the Christmas part, but granted it won't happen again for next season I hope
4) Season 5 was cool, keep it that way :3]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2013 23:10:19 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by popcorp</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27788/page-1/?recent=481251#post=481120</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[1) Yes
2) Not for me, im a sub in a 6v6 team
3) Default dates are kinda bad, would be nice if default dates were given for Friday, Saturday or Sundays, instead of Wednesdays 
4) Same as season 5]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2013 22:24:16 +0100</pubDate>
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