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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;[Suggestion] Adjustment to the &#039;no fake nicks&#039; rule&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by Sideshow</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27749/page-2/?recent=480535#post=480535</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Whyyy would you do that? I don't think I can choose between my two names.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 20 Dec 2013 23:59:27 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by emb</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27749/page-2/?recent=480535#post=480525</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from ash</i>
		<blockquote>I like how kkaltuu and emb are on different pages. "We are planning" and "I see no reason to restrict".</blockquote>

I said we have decided to remove the ability to change your nickname for all users of the site. I neither said nor implied that we have decided to penalize teams outside of Premiership for not using the same nickname in-game as on the site.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 20 Dec 2013 21:11:44 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Wiethoofd</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27749/page-2/?recent=480535#post=480493</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from kKaltUu</i>
		<blockquote>We set higher standards for prem since they're the front end of the league.</blockquote>
I've seen more div 1 matches being casted in the last few weeks than prem matches... Having 3 out of 18 players with a fake nick sucks for the viewers trying to read huds, killfeeds and keep track of who is who if they don't know the entire team roster.

Also, playing in any Nations/One Night/Fun Cup the current <em>rule</em> doesn't 'apply' to users with fake nicks, since most of them consist of mix teams. If those are getting casted the casters/viewers don't necessary know who's who.

		<blockquote>Adding other divisions to this rule for the off chance they will get casted can do more harm than good if you're looking at the amount of warnings teams are picking up.</blockquote>
Then announce the rule change in a big way and start enforcing it when the next season starts?

Perhaps make an example out of prem, div 1 and div 2 teams fake nicking <strong>IN OFFICIALS</strong> and every player will know that ETF2L <span style="text-decoration:underline">officials</span> have to be played with the ETF2L username you supplied.

It's even possible to create a server plugin to check the ETF2L xml api based on the players' steamid and force a nickname/tag (like ESEA does), but that might be taking it a step too far :P]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 20 Dec 2013 17:40:40 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kKaltUu</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27749/page-2/?recent=480535#post=480486</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from ash</i>
		<blockquote>I like how kkaltuu and emb are on different pages. "We are planning" and "I see no reason to restrict".</blockquote>
emb is talking about removing the option to change your nickname, I am talking about the ruleset Wiet was talking about.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 20 Dec 2013 15:55:26 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by _kayzer_</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27749/page-2/?recent=480535#post=480485</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[No, I like to make mindgames with it, like using my sub's nickname or a friends nickname people shit on before and is proving his value in a division proper to his skill set.

It's also funny to change around a bittle]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 20 Dec 2013 15:53:01 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by enzyme</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27749/page-2/?recent=480535#post=480483</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Sideshow</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

emb making up rules on the spot without conference will do that I guess</blockquote>
mad pars all day and night]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 20 Dec 2013 15:46:16 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Sideshow</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27749/page-2/?recent=480535#post=480482</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from ash</i>
		<blockquote>I like how kkaltuu and emb are on different pages. "We are planning" and "I see no reason to restrict".</blockquote>

emb making up rules on the spot without conference will do that I guess]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 20 Dec 2013 15:40:00 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Persei</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27749/page-2/?recent=480535#post=480477</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I do love to fakenick.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 20 Dec 2013 14:28:59 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by ashnazg</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27749/page-2/?recent=480535#post=480475</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I like how kkaltuu and emb are on different pages. "We are planning" and "I see no reason to restrict".]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 20 Dec 2013 14:26:02 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by nijoonen</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27749/page-2/?recent=480535#post=480474</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I can't see any reason why it would be a bad idea, if I'm watching a stream, cast or playing a match it's always fun to see hows playing in the other team.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 20 Dec 2013 14:24:53 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kKaltUu</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27749/page-2/?recent=480535#post=480469</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I see no reason to restrict teams under premiership for nicknames. 
We set higher standards for prem since they're the front end of the league. Adding other divisions to this rule for the off chance they will get casted can do more harm than good if you're looking at the amount of warnings teams are picking up. 

We expect teams to upload a status screenshot, this enables the opponents to check who is who and if there's a merc he will be listed as red on the status parse. (if you're asking for this rule for verification purposes)

That said, we still hold every player to the general rules:

<strong>2.5 Abusive chat, nicknames and avatars are not welcome</strong>

		<blockquote>
Try not to use the chat function during a match unless it is in a positive manner. Any offensive chat as well as spamming binds may lead to a warning for your team. Chat abuse and racist or offensive names/steam avatars will not be tolerated and may be punished with warnings or bans.</blockquote>]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:43:26 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by drotalion</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27749/page-2/?recent=480535#post=480465</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I think, not changing your name is not a big deal, or at least it shouldn't be a big deal at all.  I like the suggestion !

I still can remember, that our soldier changes his name to Sentrygun ( Drotalion ) and that caused the scout running in front of my lvl 3 several times :D

But if people feels unrested, my suggestion is, games which will be streamed, players must use their real nicknames.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:50:34 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Quell</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27749/page-2/?recent=480535#post=480463</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Fuxx</i>
		<blockquote>Don't fix what isn't broken. The adjustment requested would prove to become an annoyance to many and it'd also be particularly petty to give teams a minor warning because one of their guys forgot to change his name back.
</blockquote>

really wouldnt be that much of an issue. it's not like minor warnings mean anything, and im sure admins wouldnt kick entire teams right after the rule takes effect just cause theyre not up to date. 

knowing who you play against right then and there in officials makes the situation just a little bit more simple.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:44:12 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Animal</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27749/page-2/?recent=480535#post=480454</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from FUN POLICE RUINS TF2</i>
		<blockquote>If you aren't getting streamed then who honestly cares? Fun police have to ruin everything.</blockquote>it boggles my mind how having to change ur nick once a week just for 1 hour official is causing you to not have fun]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 20 Dec 2013 08:26:00 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Lapochka</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27749/page-1/?recent=480535#post=480453</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Wiethoofd</i>
		<blockquote>Maybe <strong>allow one FREE nickchange per season</strong></blockquote>

Firstly I want to thank you, man. It always has been very difficult to understand that bybben and bymbzi - is a one person, who is using different nicks to hiding from us! Now it's time to stop this shit.

I suggest call all players with a numeric names corresponding to their ETF2L ID. Text names are not allowed. Violation of this rule means a permanent ban!

Now I propose to you to think about avatars. They also too confusing (when you play a mix, for example). How our lovely (Paralympians) should quickly to understand who was spawned - demo or soldier? And we must to help them! I suggest to allow to use only 4 standard classes avatars: scout, medic, soldier and demo.

P.S. Play or ban. Properly nick or ban. Allowed avatar or ban. New times - new fun, huh? :D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 20 Dec 2013 08:19:40 +0100</pubDate>
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