ETF2L – Latest activity in “[HLS5] Provisional Feedback Thread”

ETF2L – Latest activity in “[HLS5] Provisional Feedback Thread” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27338/ Reply by Toba https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27338/page-15/?recent=478719#post=478719 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=27338&post=478719 Sun, 01 Dec 2013 21:50:27 +0100 Reply by SmitZ https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27338/page-15/?recent=478719#post=477289 Quoted from Toba

FYI most of the wireplay teams should have finished the season by now (apart from the top 3 in div 1, who still have playoffs). The season started at September the 8th so it should only clash for the first week of etf2l for some (if you play 1 official/week). Wireplay is not a problem, it is the 6vs6 that causes the most troubles in scheduling.

Yeah, but people like to complain. Let them have their fun.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=27338&post=477289 Fri, 15 Nov 2013 22:35:52 +0100 Reply by Toba https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27338/page-15/?recent=478719#post=476704 September the 8th so it should only clash for the first week of etf2l for some (if you play 1 official/week). Wireplay is not a problem, it is the 6vs6 that causes the most troubles in scheduling.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=27338&post=476704 Fri, 08 Nov 2013 13:26:47 +0100 Reply by Quell https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27338/page-14/?recent=478719#post=476687 Quoted from Hildreth

I feel like this longer format will be better for competition and consistency over time, however the schedule for other leagues are not ETF2L's issue, the overlap with the 6's we can control but we cannot control when other leagues wish to schedule their competitions as we lay the schedule months in advanced. The only advice I can give for the overlap is to use your wildcards if the schedule is too much, you have 2 currently. It does mean fitting more matches in later on this season, but the 6's one is due to end next week so it does free up more time to play games.

this is what's being said every time the suggestion is brought up. either you're missing the point or you (being etf2l) just dont give a fuck. feedback you ask for "i don't really like the overlap with other leagues, as i try to play several and this makes for a more than busy schedule, maybe you could." here comes the suggestion: "maybe you could talk to the organizers of other leagues and try to find some optimum arrangement?" if that's not possible (because removing overlap is not possible, not because you refuse to bother tryiing) then it's not possible and that's a whole lot better answer than "we don't care about what you want apart from etf2l, and even then we don't really care".]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=27338&post=476687 Fri, 08 Nov 2013 07:41:45 +0100 Reply by Tuto https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27338/page-14/?recent=478719#post=476675 Quoted from Deox

[...] You are missing the point, people shouldn't have to "prioritize" what leagues they play if they want to be able to play them all, it shouldn't be pick and choose when you should be able to enjoy all leagues without difficulties.

Go read what Hildreth said. Good boy.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=27338&post=476675 Fri, 08 Nov 2013 00:06:46 +0100 Reply by Deox https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27338/page-14/?recent=478719#post=476671 Quoted from Tuto

[...] Stop complaining and learn to prioritize, you don't need to play everything.

You are missing the point, people shouldn't have to "prioritize" what leagues they play if they want to be able to play them all, it shouldn't be pick and choose when you should be able to enjoy all leagues without difficulties.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=27338&post=476671 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 23:14:44 +0100 Reply by Juki https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27338/page-14/?recent=478719#post=476663 Quoted from SmitZ

[...] Several leagues are running seasons at the same time. That's a perfectly legitimate reason to complain.

]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=27338&post=476663 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 21:04:12 +0100 Reply by SmitZ https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27338/page-14/?recent=478719#post=476656 Quoted from nijoonen

Wouldn't all the diffrent leagues benefit if they spread out through the year, instead of competing against eachother? The players would have a easier time playing, the leagues would never "steal" players from other leagues and such. I dunno if this is even possible, but if it is, the only problem I can see is that people might not wanna play in leagues non-stop. When that happens, it's just up to the organizers to be better then the others.

That would be easy for ETF2L and Wireplay to do, because they're both European-based. UGC however, is American, and the longest of the three leagues, which makes that lovely idea a whole lot less feasible since there's no reason for them to change their schedule for us. The UGC seasons run for so long with very little time between them as well. I guess Wireplay could time their seasons better, but besides that there's not much to be done about it. Quoted from Hildreth

we cannot control when other leagues wish to schedule their competitions as we lay the schedule months in advanced.

^ This. Wireplay seems like the one that could start their seasons at more appropriate times, not ETF2L or UGC, since their schedules are already set. Quoted from Freakie

[...] You're supposed to reason your arguments, not just repeat them and hope people agree.

But he's Tutorial, he doesn't play by your rules.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=27338&post=476656 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 20:15:49 +0100 Reply by nijoonen https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27338/page-14/?recent=478719#post=476625 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=27338&post=476625 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 16:16:30 +0100 Reply by Hildreth https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27338/page-14/?recent=478719#post=476623 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=27338&post=476623 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 15:58:34 +0100 Reply by Scissors-HL https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27338/page-14/?recent=478719#post=476621 Quoted from Freakie

[...] Noone plays that, though.

I know, it's because they are scared of banana squad e-sports. 8) Just you wait until we get our plat 6s medals, then we'll see who's laughing!! Protip: it's us :)]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=27338&post=476621 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 15:48:04 +0100 Reply by Freakie https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27338/page-14/?recent=478719#post=476620 Quoted from Tuto

[...]

You're supposed to reason your arguments, not just repeat them and hope people agree.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=27338&post=476620 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 15:45:57 +0100 Reply by Tuto https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27338/page-14/?recent=478719#post=476617 Quoted from Tuto

[...]learn to prioritize, you don't need to play everything.

]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=27338&post=476617 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 14:22:31 +0100 Reply by Freakie https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27338/page-14/?recent=478719#post=476613 Quoted from Scissors

[...] Don't forget ugc 6s 8)

Noone plays that, though.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=27338&post=476613 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 13:36:26 +0100 Reply by SmitZ https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-27338/page-14/?recent=478719#post=476610 Quoted from Tuto

[...] Stop complaining and learn to prioritize, you don't need to play everything.

Several leagues are running seasons at the same time. That's a perfectly legitimate reason to complain.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=27338&post=476610 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 13:22:37 +0100