ETF2L – Latest activity in “[S3] Unlocks feedback”

ETF2L – Latest activity in “[S3] Unlocks feedback” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-23080/ Reply by SilverAura https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-23080/page-6/?recent=450826#post=450826 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=23080&post=450826 Wed, 15 May 2013 18:41:10 +0200 Reply by Mervin https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-23080/page-6/?recent=450826#post=450819 Quoted from SabaSaba

[...] BTW, nice choice of a name. http://etf2l.org/forum/user/20696/ Anyway, welcome to the highlander scene. Your nick will cause some confusion if you keep using that one. The "original" Mrlate has been in the comp scene for many years.

I reacted to that as well and also him being Finnish and all.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=23080&post=450819 Wed, 15 May 2013 17:49:18 +0200 Reply by SabaSaba https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-23080/page-6/?recent=450826#post=450812 Quoted from Mr. late™

New guy here, why on earth is the Hi5 taunt banned from games?

BTW, nice choice of a name. http://etf2l.org/forum/user/20696/ Anyway, welcome to the highlander scene. Your nick will cause some confusion if you keep using that one. The "original" Mrlate has been in the comp scene for many years.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=23080&post=450812 Wed, 15 May 2013 17:37:47 +0200 Reply by Hot Delivery https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-23080/page-6/?recent=450826#post=450778 Quoted from Cckwzrd

Because you can look around corners when you're taunting

Ah, I see thanks for clearing that out.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=23080&post=450778 Wed, 15 May 2013 15:11:56 +0200 Reply by Dukermons https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-23080/page-6/?recent=450826#post=450775 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=23080&post=450775 Wed, 15 May 2013 15:02:00 +0200 Reply by -bash- https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-23080/page-5/?recent=450826#post=450774 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=23080&post=450774 Wed, 15 May 2013 14:58:45 +0200 Reply by Hot Delivery https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-23080/page-5/?recent=450826#post=450771 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=23080&post=450771 Wed, 15 May 2013 14:19:40 +0200 Reply by kubarneiec1 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-23080/page-5/?recent=450826#post=437047 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=23080&post=437047 Wed, 06 Mar 2013 21:29:26 +0100 Reply by Xacher https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-23080/page-5/?recent=450826#post=414859 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=23080&post=414859 Tue, 23 Oct 2012 22:51:25 +0200 Reply by Xacher https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-23080/page-5/?recent=450826#post=414857 Quoted from Setlet

The Scout set is OP Everyone should be using Razorback, or in some cases Jarate Huo Long Heatmaker is clearly an upgrade to the normal minigun

Lots of people will disagree.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=23080&post=414857 Tue, 23 Oct 2012 22:42:28 +0200 Reply by Setlet https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-23080/page-5/?recent=450826#post=414407 Quoted from Muuki

Can you elaborate what makes it op? How is +25hp op? saying "it's op" doesn't back up your claims AT ALL, also "common sense" is not a valid argument at this point either.

Maalaisjärki. (I was trying to use heavy Ad Hominem, but I decided not to) Quoted from Muuki

I fail to see how it counters dr spies, getting lit up doesn't make you unable to stab the heavy or anyone else for that matter, unless you meant spy-cicle in which yes, it is much more so of a counter. The -6 ammo/sec is a very tough hit to you if, say, your engi's dispenser gets destroyed, and in non-a/d gamemode you would run out of ammo all the time, which hinders the heavy's ability to take part in most of the fights

I meant that if you are cloaked, you can't go even near a heavy because of the fire aura. The spy must find a new escape route after using his DR, because going near the heavy is not an option (Unless you really want to get caught on fire). I've managed to find DR spies after when I've caused them to active it by going to obvious places where a DR spy will usually go (ammo pack). I don't always kill them, but at least they are on fire. Hopefully my teammates will. I don't think the ammo is a big problem. I rarely have 0 ammo anyways. I admit however you can't be revved up for 2 minutes straight in a corner. Quoted from Muuki

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I meant this weapon: http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Pocket_Pistol It gives the scout 50% more damage from fire, including afterburn. A flare gun hit would do 45 dmg + 90 dmg afterburn = 135 damage. The scout however has 140 max health now because of this weapon, so he would still have 5 hp left :)]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=23080&post=414407 Sat, 20 Oct 2012 22:47:18 +0200 Reply by Moogi https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-23080/page-5/?recent=450826#post=414397 Quoted from Setlet

The Scout set however is OP.

Can you elaborate what makes it op? How is +25hp op? saying "it's op" doesn't back up your claims AT ALL, also "common sense" is not a valid argument at this point either.

Huo Long Heatmaker is a tough one. It's clearly an upgrade to the normal minigun, but it counters only one class: DR spy. And we all hate those pesky Dead Ringer spies so I'm glas there are now more ways to counter it.

I fail to see how it counters dr spies, getting lit up doesn't make you unable to stab the heavy or anyone else for that matter, unless you meant spy-cicle in which yes, it is much more so of a counter. The -6 ammo/sec is a very tough hit to you if, say, your engi's dispenser gets destroyed, and in non-a/d gamemode you would run out of ammo all the time, which hinders the heavy's ability to take part in most of the fights

The pistol is just a normal unlock. Hitting a scout with a flare gun will leave them with only 5 health. That's pretty balanced.

?]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=23080&post=414397 Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:40:47 +0200 Reply by SilverAura https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-23080/page-5/?recent=450826#post=414396 Huo Long Heatmaker is a tough one. It’s clearly an upgrade to the normal minigun, but it counters only one class: DR spy. And we all hate those pesky Dead Ringer spies so I’m glas there are now more ways to counter it. practically it counters any spy. Dispenser or a cart just removes the downside so ammo consumption is not a big downside.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=23080&post=414396 Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:40:46 +0200 Reply by Setlet https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-23080/page-5/?recent=450826#post=414393 Quoted from Muuki

Isn't that big of an upgrade, especially when many scouts play 6v6 and are used to scatter aiming.

is BULLSHIT. You should allow the "no hat sets", like Medic's Amputator + Crossbow. IIRC it was banned in Season 2. The Carbine is shit (Everyone should be using Razorback, or in some cases Jarate) so it should be allowed just because we seem to like unbanning weapons in HL. Huo Long Heatmaker is a tough one. It's clearly an upgrade to the normal minigun, but it counters only one class: DR spy. And we all hate those pesky Dead Ringer spies so I'm glad there are now more ways to counter it. The new sapper is a tough one too. It's very powerful on minisentries, because it takes such a long time to destroy it, and engies can't destroy their sentries if they are sapped. It can also put lvl3 sentries to lvl2 in matter of seconds. I think sapper's job in HL is to disable things, not destroy them, making the new sapper OP. We allow lots of OP unlocks already though so why not unban this one. The pistol is just a normal unlock. Hitting a scout with a flare gun will leave them with only 5 health. That's pretty balanced. Holiday Punch could be allowed, because it would never make ubered players laugh in normal situations (It's freaking hard in pub servers too). Although I understand that banning this is a message that you don't want anything to affect the holy Übercharge. Enforcer should be banned. I don't even think they nerfed it at all. The slower fire speed makes it even easier to use :D. They buffed it so now you can use normal watches with it too. Pomson must be banned, no exceptions. (Unless if it was just a reskin of Bison.) Phlogistinator is a funny one. It's obviously bad, but I understand that it's annoying. We allow annoying unlocks already though... I'm afraid of the Knife + Sandman combo, but I can't see a scenario where it could change the metagame. Long range picks on the medic?`Well, you should get the #1 in eXtv's top10 videos if you manage to pull that off. I don't see BFB overpowered at all. It should be allowed and I can see it already is. Good job. Do I want anything else to be banned? Well yes, ban the Escape Plan and the Sniper.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=23080&post=414393 Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:14:20 +0200 Reply by Moogi https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-23080/page-5/?recent=450826#post=414391 Quoted from aura

[...] haha, ok.

well, care to share your point of view about why it's supposedly op? If you can't back up your point or counter my claims then I guess anything I say is right.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=23080&post=414391 Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:08:59 +0200