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    	    <title>Reply by Buffalo Bill</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22711/page-2/?recent=452973#post=452973</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from EDAS Slug</i>
		<blockquote>I’m not sure if this is the right place to post this but I need help. I have just been kicked from my own team Educated Animals 6on6 by the other leader EDAS Panda he has kicked me because he rages when he doesn’t get his own way. I was just wondering if there was anyway to get back on the team as I own the team or to report Panda maybe? Also I have played in 3 of the officials so far and I was wondering because he has kicked me if we win Div 6 will I get a winners medal or will it just be a participant medal cause I really want the winner medal and we have a really high possibility of winning Div 6. This is one of the reason he has kicked me because he knows how much I want the winners medal and he thinks we can win…. Thanks a lot ~ Slug</blockquote>

http://etf2l.org/help/support/

Choose a nickname, press connect, write !admin and wait for an admin to contact you. :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 18:16:54 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CannonFodd3r</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22711/page-2/?recent=452973#post=452972</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[If you had read the OP, you would have noticed that this is not the right place at all.
It is ETF2L policy not to interfere in team conflicts with the rare exception to allow a team to continue playing or hijack a team, if one person tries to drop or fold the team. This does not seem to be the case here.

We can not answer the question if you are eligible for a medal yet. Usually, anyone who is on the team's roster the day the rosters are locked (first day of week 7) automatically gets a medal but we allow exceptions in some cases.

To be on the safe side, I suggest you either sort out the issues with the other team leader or find a new team.

Getting admin help on IRC http://etf2l.org/etf2l/jobs/ is a much better way to get help than posting in random threads that are not related to your problem at all, by the way :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 18:15:58 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by EDAS Slug</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22711/page-2/?recent=452973#post=452965</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I’m not sure if this is the right place to post this but I need help. I have just been kicked from my own team Educated Animals 6on6 by the other leader EDAS Panda he has kicked me because he rages when he doesn’t get his own way. I was just wondering if there was anyway to get back on the team as I own the team or to report Panda maybe? Also I have played in 3 of the officials so far and I was wondering because he has kicked me if we win Div 6 will I get a winners medal or will it just be a participant medal cause I really want the winner medal and we have a really high possibility of winning Div 6. This is one of the reason he has kicked me because he knows how much I want the winners medal and he thinks we can win…. Thanks a lot ~ Slug]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 17:46:17 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by JoseCarioca</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22711/page-2/?recent=452973#post=407781</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from SoniX</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

I'm tired of saying this so I'll say it one last time here.

Once a date has been set for the games we assume that's when the game will be played, this leaves us free to make other plans for the rest of the week whether that be work, going out or in my case on thursday, moving house.  We spoke about this for a long time last night and you still don't seem to understand, you knew when the match was scheduled for and now for some reason it's our fault you couldn't play on the scheduled date.</blockquote>

It is not your fault that we couldnt play yesterday...]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:20:40 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Sonny Black</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22711/page-2/?recent=452973#post=407747</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Lzrd</i>
		<blockquote>GG TP well deserved victory.

Would be nice if the other team were informed of the date that had been set.</blockquote>

News: http://etf2l.org/2012/09/10/season-13-finalized-divisions-pre-season-qualifiers-cheating-policy-update-bans/

Extra site: http://etf2l.org/cups/s13-qualifiers/

In addition to that, I told Jose exactly what the plan and the schedule was, even asked 2 times if he understood and agreed. And he said that it was fine.

So we had a news, a seperate site created for it and I told your team leader. How much more information sources do you need?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:31:23 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Lzrd</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22711/page-2/?recent=452973#post=407746</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[GG TP well deserved victory.

Would be nice if the other team were informed of the date that had been set.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:27:13 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Permzilla</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22711/page-2/?recent=452973#post=407741</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from IPZIE</i>
		<blockquote>^</blockquote>

fail :D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:13:53 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by derippez</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22711/page-2/?recent=452973#post=407740</link>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:08:29 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Sonic01</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22711/page-1/?recent=452973#post=407738</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Jose</i>
		<blockquote>V/ » Sonny Black: did u agree to play on thursday?
V/ » Sonny Black: if we agree?
TwistedPlay.Greg: no
TwistedPlay.Greg: we cant
TwistedPlay.Greg: we changed plans
TwistedPlay.Greg: once u told us it was all monday

Atleast admins tried to reschedule the game :)</blockquote>

I'm tired of saying this so I'll say it one last time here.

Once a date has been set for the games we assume that's when the game will be played, this leaves us free to make other plans for the rest of the week whether that be work, going out or in my case on thursday, moving house.  We spoke about this for a long time last night and you still don't seem to understand, you knew when the match was scheduled for and now for some reason it's our fault you couldn't play on the scheduled date.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:05:38 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Aveng</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22711/page-1/?recent=452973#post=407736</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from MIndYe</i>
		<blockquote>Apparently if your name is Greg you can choose the date for your playoff match and the other team can't do shit about it. It's very nice to be forced to start a playoff game @ 23:00 when you have to be at work @ 6:00 the next morning. GL HF in div1 TP.</blockquote>

I don't know why your specifically bringing my name into this?

The moment the playoffs got announced I had a chat to canfo about why we didn't get opportunity to play in the Prem playoff and the details about the div1 playoff, the first thing he said was it was a 1 night cup and we need a few dates from you to decide which day it was to be played.  Once I was informed that the date was Monday our team made plans outside of that , apparently you want us to play 4v6 or 5v6 when we were the team that went out of our way to make sure we knew the date rules (due to the fact that Sam and myself are so busy this week).  We waited 45mins for MightyMe's team to see if they could get 6 players, we then waited 30mins for your team to finish, joined the server etc, 15mins after that you inform us you aren't playing tonight?  We went out of our way as much as possible, maybe you should have done the same?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:00:16 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by JoseCarioca</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22711/page-1/?recent=452973#post=407712</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[V/ » Sonny Black: did u agree to play on thursday?
V/ » Sonny Black: if we agree?
TwistedPlay.Greg: no
TwistedPlay.Greg: we cant
TwistedPlay.Greg: we changed plans
TwistedPlay.Greg: once u told us it was all monday

Atleast admins tried to reschedule the game :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:43:19 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by skeej</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22711/page-1/?recent=452973#post=407692</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Actually some valid points are raised, MM, and I can understand the frustration here. This isn't wasn't the perfect cup that we'd all want, but considering the circumstances (mainly the extremely tight timeframe which could not be tampered with) this was clearly the best approach. For instance, I myself proposed a different and more ideal cup that would cater to more of the various team's desires and aspirations, but it would have probably required 2 weeks and simply wasn't practically doable.

Yes, the timeframe for this tournament was very small. There was no other option, there is already a grand schedule for the season; delaying the season for a week because of playoffs was not an option. 

Yes, the no merc rule is harsh, but at least this time it was communicated véry clearly (in the newspost about the cup even!) and the reasons for it are very valid: this playoff is meant to demonstrate your skill level as the team that you will be playing as in the coming season. 

Yes, the scheduling was a pain, but if the admins would have allowed you to schedule your own matches, this would have been an even bigger failure. The admins checked every team's availability and made the best schedule possible for this tournament. If you had scheduled games yourself, you wouldn't have been able to do it better.


Bottom line is: Sonnyblack never promised you div1, and if this tournament wasn't organised, some teams would have had to be disappointed by their seeding anyway. A chance is better than no chance at all, right?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:57:12 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by MInd-</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22711/page-1/?recent=452973#post=407667</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Apparently if your name is Greg you can choose the date for your playoff match and the other team can't do shit about it. It's very nice to be forced to start a playoff game @ 23:00 when you have to be at work @ 6:00 the next morning. GL HF in div1 TP.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:23:34 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by MightyMe</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22711/page-1/?recent=452973#post=407553</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Snyppis, my co-team Leader and me were both told that the changes we had made would not matter for our div 1 spot by an admin, and since there aren't any strict rules about it, you can see my confusion.

Ipz, if you don't have anything clever to say, then please don't. Keep your shit out of this topic, you're a pr admin for christ sake.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 07:06:13 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by derippez</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22711/page-1/?recent=452973#post=407543</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[i heard its illegal to make up quotations of people?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 03:55:16 +0200</pubDate>
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