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ETF2L – Latest activity in “Idea Box Feedback” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22208/ Reply by EviL. https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22208/page-4/?recent=399821#post=399821 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=22208&post=399821 Wed, 08 Aug 2012 23:19:04 +0200 Reply by freshmeatt https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22208/page-3/?recent=399821#post=399459 Quoted from skeej

Aahahahah xD The fighting game community actually doesn't seem that far removed from the 14 year-old faggot-shouting CoD/Halo console community. http://kotaku.com/5889066/competitive-gamers-inflammatory-comments-spark-sexual-harassment-debate

That's genuinely the weirdest, if not the most retarded comparison I've ever heard in my entire life. Also, stop reading Kotaku, it's full of bullshit. Exposed by, probably, all the competitive communities out there. Agreed on the unlock part though. As a first step you may want to take a small baseline set of unlocks, proven amongst leagues to provide a certain level of variety in tactics that have their clear counterparts, without compromising what the overall basic strategies rely on (certain positioning and/or timings) and do one of the following: 1) Announce it and add it as a first batch, then build on that, adding and removing what will be proven to enrich/degenerate the gameplay. 2) Do it ozfl style - post a list, make a discussion forum, count on people's commitment to the cause and ultimately, make your own decision while taking the opinions into account.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=22208&post=399459 Tue, 07 Aug 2012 14:13:53 +0200 Reply by CrashSite https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22208/page-3/?recent=399821#post=399458 Quoted from skeej

[...] Aahahahah xD The fighting game community actually doesn't seem that far removed from the 14 year-old faggot-shouting CoD/Halo console community. http://kotaku.com/5889066/competitive-gamers-inflammatory-comments-spark-sexual-harassment-debate [...] Important fighting game community figure stating that being like Starcraft is a bad thing (one of the most succesful and mature e-sports to date) and that the fighting game community can't do without sexual harassment. You were saying? I didn't even mention the general problem of the fighting games themselves of not being able to get rid of 90's videogame sexism.

I am literally just going off the American scene that I watch. Really don't see anything like that there. Maybe it is present but under the surface. So I can't comment on that.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=22208&post=399458 Tue, 07 Aug 2012 14:07:20 +0200 Reply by CrashSite https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22208/page-3/?recent=399821#post=399457 Quoted from Califax

I was responding more to this very weird statement: "... partly cos there are no white people in that community "

Oh kinda an in joke. There are very few white people in that ocmmunity, so the normal amount of racism I hear from people on mumble, not actually malicious, more I can say this word cos no one knows what I look like, is not present in their community.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=22208&post=399457 Tue, 07 Aug 2012 14:05:44 +0200 Reply by skeej https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22208/page-3/?recent=399821#post=399452 Quoted from CrashSite

To expand on what I said above. It is not only the games I love, but the communities. The entire fighting game community is just funny, always entertaining, also seems more mature, less racial slurs/homophobia, partly cos they are older and partly cos there are no white people in that community (or rather very few).

Aahahahah xD The fighting game community actually doesn't seem that far removed from the 14 year-old faggot-shouting CoD/Halo console community. http://kotaku.com/5889066/competitive-gamers-inflammatory-comments-spark-sexual-harassment-debate

Rea: Can I get my Street Fighter without sexual harassment? Bakhtanians: You can’t. You can’t because they’re one and the same thing. This is a community that’s, you know, 15 or 20 years old, and the sexual harassment is part of a culture, and if you remove that from the fighting game community, it’s not the fighting game community--it’s StarCraft.

Important fighting game community figure stating that being like Starcraft is a bad thing (one of the most succesful and mature e-sports to date) and that the fighting game community can't do without sexual harassment. You were saying? I didn't even mention the general problem of the fighting games themselves of not being able to get rid of 90's videogame sexism. Ontopic: Maybe I missed a post about this, but isn't it currently possible to set individual forum rights on the wordpress forum? Couldn't we achieve the same thing without the PhpBB? I guess I missed something, and the admins have their reasons for it. I have to agree with Vali. I think the way the PhpBB is set up already shows a fallible standpoint. We see a seperate thread for every single unlock (mon dieu), but the point is not to at all to argue every specific unlock. If you start arguing every single unlock seperately, ultimately there's no big argument to make to ban/allow a specific one. You can always think of reasons why a single unlock, removed from any context, is useful/fun/interesting/etc. I don't think that arguing seperate unlocks in seperate threads without any established underlying principles as a "departure point" will get us anywhere. Even if people try to forward the unlocks discussion with the best of intentions, they will have to repeat the underlying inference for their way of reasoning about certain unlocks in every single thread. Let's be real, there's no way we can hop from one ETF2L season to the next and just add a shitload of new unlocks to the ruleset without causing considerable collateral damage to the community and the support of the league in one way or another. The only realistic way to make change (provided the majority actually wants that) is to do it in careful steps, and the way we're supposed to unsystematically discuss each unlock in those forums doesn't really seem suited for that in my opinion.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=22208&post=399452 Tue, 07 Aug 2012 13:33:54 +0200 Reply by califax https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22208/page-3/?recent=399821#post=399446 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=22208&post=399446 Tue, 07 Aug 2012 13:13:13 +0200 Reply by CrashSite https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22208/page-3/?recent=399821#post=399444 Quoted from AnimaL

[...]tf2 players sing off

That was fun times.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=22208&post=399444 Tue, 07 Aug 2012 13:11:00 +0200 Reply by Animal https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22208/page-3/?recent=399821#post=399414 Quoted from wpminnows

[...] what is 'popping off'? can minecraft players 'pop off'?

tf2 players sing off]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=22208&post=399414 Tue, 07 Aug 2012 11:47:58 +0200 Reply by wpminnows https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22208/page-3/?recent=399821#post=399406 Quoted from CrashSite

To expand on what I said above. It is not only the games I love, but the communities. The entire fighting game community is just funny, always entertaining, also seems more mature, less racial slurs/homophobia, partly cos they are older and partly cos there are no white people in that community (or rather very few). When they pop off it is genuine, they have awesome casters, who make every game entertaining, even if it is not that good a match. The crowd is always hype. For example this is one of the things at EVO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf8GG3gwam8 The fighting game community expands past it's games. I also only watching minecraft, because of the people who play it. They do interesting things and have interesting stories, again I don't play it, but I will watch it and gain understanding from it.

what is 'popping off'? can minecraft players 'pop off'?]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=22208&post=399406 Tue, 07 Aug 2012 11:31:44 +0200 Reply by califax https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22208/page-3/?recent=399821#post=399402 Quoted from atmo

[...] wat

+1]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=22208&post=399402 Tue, 07 Aug 2012 11:25:33 +0200 Reply by atmo https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22208/page-3/?recent=399821#post=399396 The entire fighting game community is just funny, always entertaining, also seems more mature, less racial slurs/homophobia, partly cos they are older and partly cos there are no white people in that community (or rather very few). wat]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=22208&post=399396 Tue, 07 Aug 2012 11:12:01 +0200 Reply by kaidus https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22208/page-3/?recent=399821#post=399359 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=22208&post=399359 Tue, 07 Aug 2012 03:21:04 +0200 Reply by CrashSite https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22208/page-3/?recent=399821#post=399355 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=22208&post=399355 Tue, 07 Aug 2012 02:55:48 +0200 Reply by CrashSite https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22208/page-3/?recent=399821#post=399352 Quoted from envy

[...] What? Why would people, who don't know anything about 6's, will watch 6's match? Everyone, who watch football matches, at least once in their life played it; surely, they will know basic rules etc. Same with TF2. Or you suggest it in a blind hope that new people will join comp community after they watch VanillaTV streams?

For the same reason I watch: SSF4, UMVC3, SC2, Quake Live, DoTA 2, KoF and HoN without ever playing them. I love watching e-sports. I doubt many people watching the omlypics have played handball or used a pummel horse, nor sailed and some might not even have swam. So yeah I think it is something we should keep in mind.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=22208&post=399352 Tue, 07 Aug 2012 02:45:56 +0200 Reply by Animal https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-22208/page-3/?recent=399821#post=399350 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=22208&post=399350 Tue, 07 Aug 2012 02:34:02 +0200