ETF2L – Latest activity in “NA Rules Cup?” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21842/ Reply by Dukermons https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21842/page-2/?recent=397822#post=397822 Quoted from svins
NA rules are bad
Have you ever played with them in a serious match?]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21842&post=397822 Fri, 27 Jul 2012 23:27:22 +0200 Reply by svins https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21842/page-2/?recent=397822#post=397820 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21842&post=397820 Fri, 27 Jul 2012 23:08:59 +0200 Reply by Admirable https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21842/page-2/?recent=397822#post=397819 Quoted from MIndYe
The halves and three caps thing is not really the major thing about the rules. It's the first to 5. Just winlimit 5, timelimit 60. Changing teams midgame to have halves is not really needed.
Half time is the best part, so you can actually stop, discuss and make some adjustments.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21842&post=397819 Fri, 27 Jul 2012 23:01:35 +0200 Reply by MInd- https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21842/page-2/?recent=397822#post=397805 Quoted from emb
Something to consider: ESEA's map rules are not possible to reproduce exactly without a client. Scores must be tracked between rounds manually. There are two distinct ways to do it: The Two Halves Way: [...] The Three Rounds Way: [...] The Two Halves way is closer to ESEA rules, but requires more config management. The Three Rounds Way uses only one config, but is somewhat different from ESEA rules - however it still solves the "bus parking problem". You have to keep track of teams' total scores across rounds in either case - there is no way around it that I know of.
The halves and three caps thing is not really the major thing about the rules. It's the first to 5. Just winlimit 5, timelimit 60. Changing teams midgame to have halves is not really needed.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21842&post=397805 Fri, 27 Jul 2012 21:33:48 +0200 Reply by Sideshow https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21842/page-2/?recent=397822#post=397798 Quoted from pyyyour
testing the rules without the unlocks is a waste of time. We just voted on this season's unlocks. This would be awesome to watch and, IMO, would breathe some life into the European scene. I for one would watch it.
Oh yes of course, it'd be really useful to leave in the unlocks, alienating at least 75% of the teams above div3, and a fair amount below that. Plus the point of a cup is to test one variable, so why not add another crazy one in there? The more the merrier. On the other hand, a cup with some rule changes that actually could be implemented in the eu scene and could be helpful for speeding up the pace of games? PAH, NEEDS GUNBOATS. There should be a cup simply differing in the rulesets. If they're helpful, and promote a faster pace, it would be very interesting to then run a cup to see whether a very few unlocks should be allowed on top of that. The ruleset should be the priority though, as I think most people agree that there are some issues with the current EU turtling defensive strategies in terms of pace, whereas there is major differences of opinion when it comes to unlocks.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21842&post=397798 Fri, 27 Jul 2012 20:17:49 +0200 Reply by pyyyour https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21842/page-2/?recent=397822#post=397784 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21842&post=397784 Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:57:02 +0200 Reply by tarquinbb https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21842/page-2/?recent=397822#post=397767 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21842&post=397767 Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:16:43 +0200 Reply by emb https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21842/page-2/?recent=397822#post=397763 The Two Halves Way:
Two configs: etf2l_nacup_round1.cfg and etf2l_nacup_round2.cfg etf2l_nacup_round1.cfg: winlimit 3, timelimit 30 etf2l_nacup_round2.cfg: winlimit 5, timelimit 30 match ends after 5 total caps by any team (not automatically, teams must keep track) if score is tied after 2 rounds, play overtime overtime: etf2l_nacup_round2.cfg, play until first cap. if neither team caps before timelimit, restart cfg and continue until first cap.
The Three Rounds Way:
One config: etf2l_nacup.cfg etf2l_nacup.cfg: winlimit 3, timelimit 20 match ends after 5 total caps by any team (not automatically, teams must keep track) if score is tied after 3 rounds, play overtime overtime: etf2l_nacup.cfg, play until first cap. if neither team caps before timelimit, restart cfg and continue until first cap.
The Two Halves way is closer to ESEA rules, but requires more config management. The Three Rounds Way uses only one config, but is somewhat different from ESEA rules - however it still solves the "bus parking problem". You have to keep track of teams' total scores across rounds in either case - there is no way around it that I know of.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21842&post=397763 Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:46:32 +0200 Reply by freshmeatt https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21842/page-2/?recent=397822#post=397561 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21842&post=397561 Thu, 26 Jul 2012 01:36:56 +0200 Reply by Cool_rero https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21842/page-2/?recent=397822#post=397528 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21842&post=397528 Wed, 25 Jul 2012 19:44:16 +0200 Reply by Strayeed https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21842/page-2/?recent=397822#post=397522 Quoted from CrashSite
NA rules, yes. Unlocks no.
tbh NA ruleset could be 10x more entertaining (ruleset, without unlocks) cuz would be epic comebacks etc, now u win few points and can waste time for ages or when it's 4-0, you pretty much can't loose as there's a lack of time. NA Ruleset for some tryout cups and then S13!]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21842&post=397522 Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:57:56 +0200 Reply by CrashSite https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21842/page-2/?recent=397822#post=397477 Quoted from envy
Yes to unlocks, ruleset, process and viaduct. Fuck CrashSite.
Come at me bro.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21842&post=397477 Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:17:56 +0200 Reply by rumia https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21842/page-2/?recent=397822#post=397462 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21842&post=397462 Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:34:52 +0200 Reply by Enef https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21842/page-2/?recent=397822#post=397461 Quoted from CrashSite
An american said that when he used vanilla as roamer, he had to go even more agressive, since it was harder for him to simply jump back out. I think it has a lot to do with the mentality the the two sides, more than rules.
Welcome to what i said about two weeks back and everyone dismissed as me being pessimistic about shit.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21842&post=397461 Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:33:01 +0200 Reply by CrashSite https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21842/page-1/?recent=397822#post=397434 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21842&post=397434 Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:54:23 +0200