ETF2L – Latest activity in “Allowing a few unlocks?” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21635/ Reply by Thomas the train https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21635/page-21/?recent=393308#post=393308 Quoted from MIndYe
[...] Yeah, let's make people pay to play the game on a league like ESEA. That'll get the pubbers interested.
When I was into the smaller LoL LAN scenes people would throw in cash for the pool, and everyone from teams where none of them could break out of elo hell, to teams where the teams were all 1900+ would enter the tourny(the prize pool was generally more spread out with 6th getting his cash back.)]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21635&post=393308 Mon, 02 Jul 2012 02:15:02 +0200 Reply by MInd- https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21635/page-21/?recent=393308#post=393274 Quoted from Hudson!
The team the gets the lowest prize in the prize pool gets more as an individual than a prem team gets if they win etf2l.
Yeah, let's make people pay to play the game on a league like ESEA. That'll get the pubbers interested.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21635&post=393274 Sun, 01 Jul 2012 21:04:41 +0200 Reply by freshmeatt https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21635/page-21/?recent=393308#post=393268 Quoted from Hudson!
The NA scene is a thriving community and the EU scene is dying and the reason is for unlocks.
Just throwing this in, that's not true. Even if unlocks were allowed, EU would focus their gameplay around stalemates and how to work around them.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21635&post=393268 Sun, 01 Jul 2012 20:19:43 +0200 Reply by ds_ https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21635/page-21/?recent=393308#post=393222 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21635&post=393222 Sun, 01 Jul 2012 16:06:44 +0200 Reply by Cool_rero https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21635/page-21/?recent=393308#post=392930 Quoted from CrashSite
[...] I did all the marketing for the newbie mix group, or at least organised the marketing, had some help (<3 chaplin and monkeh). I also bugged people to make the mixes. Then it died for a while, started trying it again, get people involved, Felix was made admin, started doing them, he was originally a newbie from the group I think. I was also the one who made people admins. I did a shitton for that group, the only part I didn't help in was the newbie mixes themselves, as I didn't think I has the right personality for it. But as I was saying, the NA has committed members who don't need someone to literally ask them to make a mix before they do it, they also get invite players. So now you know.
Sorry if I came across as a dick, I you've done much for group (since I played there from the very start, and I actually played a couple of mixes with you). I'm saying "currently" not in the past. Tbh, the european group was very good when it first started, we have prem players participating too, but all those people who used to put effort into it stopped, which is a shame since I remember that the group spawned 4 teams or more for season10 (mine included). EDIT : we're really off-topic :D.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21635&post=392930 Sat, 30 Jun 2012 13:58:35 +0200 Reply by AFK Ninja https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21635/page-21/?recent=393308#post=392927 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21635&post=392927 Sat, 30 Jun 2012 13:50:11 +0200 Reply by rumia https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21635/page-21/?recent=393308#post=392916 Quoted from skeej
[...]
Satisfaction with the class you play. There is a lot of people who have a godlike aim, but play demo; who are good at dodging spam and scouts, but their main is solly. They bury a talent of playing a dull class to practice and become better at the class they do enjoy. This is what I meant by "fun".]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21635&post=392916 Sat, 30 Jun 2012 13:13:17 +0200 Reply by skeej https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21635/page-21/?recent=393308#post=392900 Quoted from envy
[...] cough fun cough
Of course, and that is fine, but I think you forgot the initial point this argument was about. If you have an approach to this game that is fun-first, winning-2nd, then I don't see how you could have amazing insights in the deep logistics of competitive 6v6, because you simply don't play like that. If you don't play with a Sirlinian play-to-win attitude, then you will not argue or favor changes in a way that support a play-to-win mentality. Quoted from Admirable
[...] I think this is the highlander fallacy! It is highlander ruleset that enforces that every class must be featured at all times in match. Surely 6v6 is actually far more flexible by comparison? :D
fuck yeah INTELLECTUALLY CHECKMATED ... highlander is stale l2adapt to 6v6 noobs lolololo xDDD Tbh I think the panel solution with a spreadsheet could still be combined with a private discussion forum. The forum would be used to share ideas, and after that the panel members could still make their vote seperate to what was said in the topic. Like I mentioned before, an community-opinion-gauging poll on the frontpage to assist the panel would be nice too. I think at this point I'd ideally see ETF2L go towards Arx' 2nd option.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21635&post=392900 Sat, 30 Jun 2012 12:15:37 +0200 Reply by CrashSite https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21635/page-21/?recent=393308#post=392891 Quoted from Mercy
[...] Liked the cup idea for newbies, people who have played in div6 shouldn't be allowed to play though, since we already have them on our side. As for the newbie mix group, I don't see how you're organizing stuff, there are literally 2 people who set up newbie mixes currently, Felix and Rando.
I did all the marketing for the newbie mix group, or at least organised the marketing, had some help (<3 chaplin and monkeh). I also bugged people to make the mixes. Then it died for a while, started trying it again, get people involved, Felix was made admin, started doing them, he was originally a newbie from the group I think. I was also the one who made people admins. I did a shitton for that group, the only part I didn't help in was the newbie mixes themselves, as I didn't think I has the right personality for it. But as I was saying, the NA has committed members who don't need someone to literally ask them to make a mix before they do it, they also get invite players. So now you know.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21635&post=392891 Sat, 30 Jun 2012 11:07:29 +0200 Reply by Cool_rero https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21635/page-21/?recent=393308#post=392889 Quoted from CrashSite
[...] Ok. First more streams from top players that can then be advertised on all the major sites, maybe also post them on big community sites, such as UKMD etc Second, make an etf2l cup for only new players and maybe div 6, advertise in game way as streams, offer a decent prize. Help with reviving the newbie mix group, it has worked so well in NA and kinda died over here. I ended up being the only one trying to organise stuff. They have Invite players, I think I had one, who played once. So this would be huge. Use i46 as marketing to show everyone the community side of our games, both in the TF2 pub community and the other competitive games. Ask NA scene what they have done to get it growing, cos lets be honest getting people in a scene where the biggest league is pay to enter is hard. Some ideas just off top of my head.
Liked the cup idea for newbies, people who have played in div6 shouldn't be allowed to play though, since we already have them on our side. As for the newbie mix group, I don't see how you're organizing stuff, there are literally 2 people who set up newbie mixes currently, Felix and Rando.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21635&post=392889 Sat, 30 Jun 2012 10:36:07 +0200 Reply by CrashSite https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21635/page-20/?recent=393308#post=392886 Quoted from Mercy
[...] o yeah? please share your marketing plan with us
Ok. First more streams from top players that can then be advertised on all the major sites, maybe also post them on big community sites, such as UKMD etc Second, make an etf2l cup for only new players and maybe div 6, advertise in game way as streams, offer a decent prize. Help with reviving the newbie mix group, it has worked so well in NA and kinda died over here. I ended up being the only one trying to organise stuff. They have Invite players, I think I had one, who played once. So this would be huge. Use i46 as marketing to show everyone the community side of our games, both in the TF2 pub community and the other competitive games. Ask NA scene what they have done to get it growing, cos lets be honest getting people in a scene where the biggest league is pay to enter is hard. Some ideas just off top of my head.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21635&post=392886 Sat, 30 Jun 2012 07:46:33 +0200 Reply by Cool_rero https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21635/page-20/?recent=393308#post=392882 Quoted from CrashSite
TBH, I don't think it really matters, we could probably get etf2l growing again, with a bit of marketing, not very hard, but people in this community are too fucking lazy <3
o yeah? please share your marketing plan with us]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21635&post=392882 Sat, 30 Jun 2012 04:35:52 +0200 Reply by CrashSite https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21635/page-20/?recent=393308#post=392881 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21635&post=392881 Sat, 30 Jun 2012 03:59:31 +0200 Reply by Eledorian https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21635/page-20/?recent=393308#post=392853 Quoted from Oafmeal
Found the NA topic with a link to the vote results... http://natf2.com/topics/510-the-new-weapon-bans For those new to the NA forums, all of Defy's links lead to NSFW titty pics. XD
That doesn't look so different from our unlock threads, they seem to have less admin interaction though :P]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21635&post=392853 Sat, 30 Jun 2012 00:13:55 +0200 Reply by Rychius https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21635/page-20/?recent=393308#post=392833 Quoted from Admirable
[...] I think this is the highlander fallacy! It is highlander ruleset that enforces that every class must be featured at all times in match. Surely 6v6 is actually far more flexible by comparison? :D
well in pubs people usually play pyro/spy/sniper/heavy and when they come to 6v6 they cant play those classes for the whole map (yes there maps where you can run sniper or heavy for the whole map but we dont play one map do we? *cough* badlands) as its quite situational (pyro defence at last or someone going sniper to get a pick and etc), while at highlander they can do it as much as they want so pubbers dont usually find 6's that attractive]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=21635&post=392833 Fri, 29 Jun 2012 22:16:15 +0200