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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;[S12] Map Pool Feedback Thread&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by skeej</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21126/page-2/?recent=379798#post=379798</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from atmo</i>
		<blockquote>I hope the comments on Pledge's VTF2 article are taken into consideration also.</blockquote>

I was just gonna say this, not going to spend another hour making a wall of text with fancy words.

Besides I don't really see the focus of discussion of this topic? Is it about the map pool size, is it about specific maps, is it about the way this map pool was composed, is it about the assignment of this map pool to specific divisions, etc? We already decided that the community pick the maps, so how can individuals in this topic change anything now, by complaining about map specifics? Something needs to change at the core, and I think the vanillatf2 discussion already went way more into detail, no need to split up the discussion now.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 16:35:30 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Cunlico</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21126/page-2/?recent=379798#post=379797</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Dummy</i>
		<blockquote> a 5 map pool would be better
</blockquote>
Please remove Obscure for fuck sake and let's play Badlands/Granary/Snake/Gravel/Gully]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 16:33:35 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Shabbaman</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21126/page-2/?recent=379798#post=379793</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from rtan</i>
		<blockquote>You should remove obscure and replace it with turbine for prem/div1/whatever div GoT&#60;3 is in.</blockquote>

Anyway... polls like this where the majority gets it&#039;s way are inherently bad for the higher divisions, because the number of players in those divisions is smaller (derp). It&#039;s not as if there aren&#039;t players in div4/5/6 that don&#039;t want to play Turbine, but I doubt there are a lot of players in those divisions who even played that map (Croissant likewise, but that looks like 5cp so it must be good right :/ ). If you&#039;d average the votes for each division you&#039;d end up with a weighted poll. That would do more justice to the teams in higher divisions. Obviously I&#039;m taking into consideration that you&#039;d rather listen to prem players than div6 players, but hey...

Also, why are we even letting people vote who aren&#039;t even playing in this league?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 16:24:00 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by atmo</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21126/page-2/?recent=379798#post=379790</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I hope the comments on Pledge's VTF2 article are taken into consideration also.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 16:08:45 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Pinky</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21126/page-2/?recent=379798#post=379775</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from rtan</i>
		<blockquote>You should remove obscure and replace it with turbine for prem/div1/2/3.</blockquote>]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 15:19:52 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by r7an</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21126/page-1/?recent=379798#post=379670</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[You should remove obscure and replace it with turbine for prem/div1.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 11:43:34 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Permzilla</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21126/page-1/?recent=379798#post=379543</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Dummy</i>
		<blockquote> a 5 map pool would be better.</blockquote>]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 17:58:46 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Nymthae</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21126/page-1/?recent=379798#post=379506</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from skeej</i>
		<blockquote>Let's keep the spirit of having the whole community decide and put a poll on the frontpage with 2 choices:

"keep the 6 map pool including obscure"
"change to a 5 map pool, dropping obscure"

Guess which option will be the most popular one? :D</blockquote>

Surely the map in question would be gravel pit? As (somehow) obscure actually got more votes.

If the 5 pool were to be considered, I think a vote over gravel/obs would be appropriate as a different result may be chosen (as there's no splitting of votes on maps that are not even in contention).]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:53:11 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by skeej</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21126/page-1/?recent=379798#post=379497</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Let's keep the spirit of having the whole community decide and put a poll on the frontpage with 2 choices:

"keep the 6 map pool including obscure"
"change to a 5 map pool, dropping obscure"

Guess which option will be the most popular one? :D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:35:22 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Buffalo Bill</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21126/page-1/?recent=379798#post=379486</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I prefer a mappool of 6 maps, problem with that 6th map is that people would rather vote for maps tried and rejected in the past (e.g. freight and obscure) over maps who've made a favorable first impression in cups/pcws but haven't been played in a league yet (e.g. foundry)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:39:47 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by blitzkrieg</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21126/page-1/?recent=379798#post=379477</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Any new map would have been nice....

or tc_hydro]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:56:17 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by stwn</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21126/page-1/?recent=379798#post=379476</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from atomic-</i>
		<blockquote>omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomg
there's obscure and gravelpit in a map pool, I don't want to play them because I'm so fuckin' bad!
Stop crying folks and play!
Or lets play only badlands so everyone can be fuckin' happy?</blockquote>
calm down brosephine]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:48:22 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by lclent</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21126/page-1/?recent=379798#post=379474</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomg
there's obscure and gravelpit in a map pool, I don't want to play them because I'm so fuckin' bad!
Stop crying folks and play!
Or lets play only badlands so everyone can be fuckin' happy?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:41:39 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Enef</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21126/page-1/?recent=379798#post=379472</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[4 map pool would be best, fuck gravel and obscure]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:30:19 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Dr-Gimpfen</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-21126/page-1/?recent=379798#post=379467</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[cp_badl
cp_gran
cp_snake
cp_gully
ctf_turbine_pro

= 

epic mappool]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:21:38 +0200</pubDate>
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