ETF2L – Latest activity in “[HL S1] Unlock Rules Feedback” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18742/ Reply by Noodlez https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18742/page-8/?recent=363241#post=363241 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18742&post=363241 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 13:28:14 +0100 Reply by Boeuf https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18742/page-8/?recent=363241#post=363209 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18742&post=363209 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 10:22:10 +0100 Reply by mdalib https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18742/page-8/?recent=363241#post=363195 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18742&post=363195 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 07:24:57 +0100 Reply by Selektionsfaktor https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18742/page-8/?recent=363241#post=349706 Undocumented changes Updated the Bombinomicon effect to use golden particles outside of Halloween. http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/November_22,_2011_Patch Ugh. Again, thanks for banning it.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18742&post=349706 Thu, 24 Nov 2011 01:06:22 +0100 Reply by Selektionsfaktor https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18742/page-8/?recent=363241#post=348347 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18742&post=348347 Thu, 17 Nov 2011 01:51:49 +0100 Reply by ashkan https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18742/page-8/?recent=363241#post=348238 Quoted from Selek
[...] So... any thoughts/rulings on this? Yes? No? Too late, the Season is already running?
Ban. Announcement in next news post.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18742&post=348238 Wed, 16 Nov 2011 13:15:44 +0100 Reply by Sonny Black https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18742/page-7/?recent=363241#post=348192 Quoted from Selek
The Bombinomicon is allowed, right? Essentially, it is a misc. anti-Spy gadget. By the huge explosion people who don't listen to the loud scream of the backstabbed character (or player ;) ) will SEE the exploding teammate and immediately know of the Spy behind them. Even worse, YER backstabs are not silent at all, provided a Spy uses it, of course. Spying against a well-communicating team is hard enough even without it, so please consider disallowing it.
The question is what do we make out of misc items. The sign-ups for the highlander season started on the 16th of October. And the rules say: 2.2.1 All Current Unlocks allowed. Unlocks released during the season are banned. All unlocks are currently allowed. Weapons that are released after sign-ups for the season opened, will be banned for the duration of the season. The Bombinomicon was included into the game on the 27th, so during the sign-ups. The rules also name unlocks, but later on it says weapons. Under 2.2.2 it also says: All other hats and misc items are allowed. Which would include the Bombinomicon then. So yeah, have teams agree on it? Have a poll? Allow it on base of the rules or ban it on base of the rules? ...]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18742&post=348192 Wed, 16 Nov 2011 03:50:47 +0100 Reply by Selektionsfaktor https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18742/page-7/?recent=363241#post=348183 Quoted from Selek
The Bombinomicon is allowed, right? Essentially, it is a misc. anti-Spy gadget. By the huge explosion people who don't listen to the loud scream of the backstabbed character (or player ;) ) will SEE the exploding teammate and immediately know of the Spy behind them. Even worse, YER backstabs are not silent at all, provided a Spy uses it, of course. Spying against a well-communicating team is hard enough even without it, so please consider disallowing it.
So... any thoughts/rulings on this? Yes? No? Too late, the Season is already running?]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18742&post=348183 Wed, 16 Nov 2011 02:57:01 +0100 Reply by emb https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18742/page-7/?recent=363241#post=347436 Quoted from infinite12
Current UGC bans- 1. Reserve Shooter - Remember how bugged the direct hit was when it first came out? This weapon shares similar bugs in that crits are given to people who jump, who fall off cliffs, and who are simply standing on staircases higher than the player with the reserve shooter. It is absolutely bugged and we have contacted valve about fixing it. 2. The Enforcer - This is the only weapon we have banned because it is Overpowered. This weapon has zero real drawbacks (0.5 sec cloak delay is negligible at best). From our experience when this is allowed spies become battle spies and resemble Clint Eastwood rather than a silent stealth ninja like Jackie Chan..wait that one doesnt work. This weapon totally changes the roll of the spy. Why attempt backstabs when you can 2 sot someone? 3. Cow Mangler 5000 - This one is currently being looked at again since the graphics were changed a few patches ago. We may allow this in the future. 4. Machina - A fully charged shot travels through ubered players. No other weapon in the game shoots through ubers so we feel this is a bug even though a small one. 5. Detonator - A quickswitch bug exists that bypasses the mini-crit and delivers a full crit. This is bugged and we have contacted valve about switching.
Besides the (now outdated) ban on the Cow Mangler, I think UGC unlock rules really nailed it, especially in their decision to ban the Enforcer. There are also some issues with the Bombonomicon. Much like the old Cow Mangler effects, the explosions cause severe framerate drops if triggered in succession. It is an item intended for mere amusement value, but it's also a free upgrade for dead ringer spies, as it removes all telltale signs by destroying the corpse and sending the fake weapon flying. Last but not least, the massive colorful explosions during fights are both distracting and annoying to the extreme.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18742&post=347436 Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:41:25 +0100 Reply by Selektionsfaktor https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18742/page-7/?recent=363241#post=347425 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18742&post=347425 Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:54:26 +0100 Reply by Bontsa https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18742/page-7/?recent=363241#post=346815 Quoted from Tehgnarr
Enforcer - way, waaay 2stronk. Give the spy a scattergun, why dont ya.
Scattergun with at least 40, up to 70 damage per shot. And perfectly accurate shots (I remember to be told that bullet spread doesn't affect Spy primaries when there's "fixed spread"?) Who needs to get to melee range anymore when Spy can now often 2-hit kill Medic from medium distance anyway :'DD Screw helping Engineer out as Pyro, gotta spycheck every single spot within medium to medium-long range around Medic 150% of the time :3 Also whats all this commotion about Wrangler .__. It's shield is bit too much yes but in the end of the day I think it's the best unlock for Engineer so far, almost only thing that makes him useful in tense combat and defense situations.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18742&post=346815 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 09:44:43 +0100 Reply by NeuTronas https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18742/page-7/?recent=363241#post=346683 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18742&post=346683 Tue, 08 Nov 2011 16:06:37 +0100 Reply by carlsson https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18742/page-7/?recent=363241#post=346455 Quoted from bpc908
leave all weapons unbanned. Have a nice normal TF2 match.
+1]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18742&post=346455 Mon, 07 Nov 2011 12:37:58 +0100 Reply by Tehgnarr https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18742/page-7/?recent=363241#post=346454 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18742&post=346454 Mon, 07 Nov 2011 12:24:01 +0100 Reply by Boeuf https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18742/page-7/?recent=363241#post=346441 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18742&post=346441 Mon, 07 Nov 2011 10:29:10 +0100