ETF2L – Latest activity in “[S10] Provisional Divisions Feedback Thread!” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18356/ Reply by torden https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18356/page-14/?recent=335656#post=335656 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18356&post=335656 Sun, 18 Sep 2011 23:43:04 +0200 Reply by Gubbins https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18356/page-14/?recent=335656#post=335643 Quoted from mustardoverlord
so what IS the deal with nvc's team
They're waiting for us or idk? to fold.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18356&post=335643 Sun, 18 Sep 2011 22:47:48 +0200 Reply by death144 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18356/page-14/?recent=335656#post=335642 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18356&post=335642 Sun, 18 Sep 2011 22:43:40 +0200 Reply by kaidus https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18356/page-14/?recent=335656#post=335635 Quoted from Mike
Torden, you're in division 1, deal with it
They asked for div1 iirc.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18356&post=335635 Sun, 18 Sep 2011 21:41:33 +0200 Reply by mustardoverlord https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18356/page-14/?recent=335656#post=335631 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18356&post=335631 Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:58:05 +0200 Reply by stvv https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18356/page-14/?recent=335656#post=335610 Quoted from Mike
Torden, you're in division 1, deal with it
# your prem mic, deal with it!.. omgz ;D]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18356&post=335610 Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:26:29 +0200 Reply by Vint4ge14 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18356/page-14/?recent=335656#post=335544 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18356&post=335544 Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:28:38 +0200 Reply by Hildreth https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18356/page-14/?recent=335656#post=335449 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18356&post=335449 Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:52:32 +0200 Reply by torden https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18356/page-14/?recent=335656#post=335448 Quoted from CanFo
"Sorry, we cant be arsed" would not be honest. Actually, it is the opposite. I am spending a lot of my free time on this league and cups because I can be arsed, even if I can not play at the moment and can not expect a lot in return. I think the first time I read about pre-season playoffs was about 3 days ago. In my experience, 4 days are not enough time to run proper playoff matches (especially if you have only 2 actual days because only few teams can be arsed to play on a weekend) and rushed decisions are rarely good anyway. Also, I do not know where I made a "fake proposal". What I said about pre-season playoffs was clearly my own opinion with the hint that it does not necessarily represent the opinion of the whole staff. Please elaborate. I am aware that being an admin is a very unrewarding job and you have to take a lot of shit as admin because someone will always be unhappy with your decisions but I would not expect someone as respected as you to suggest I "could not be arsed" or was "bullshitting fake proposals". What I am trying to do is collecting feedback and implementing it, if possible. We could as well just say "these are the divisions, deal with it". I would have talked to you directly but I could not find you on IRC. If you want to continue this discussion, query me please.
Nah, point's been made. By now, CKRAS and Eq are set with prem, and making more out of it at this stage would be more of taking it and any joy of it away from them as deserving members - as opposed to the positive notion of giving equal teams a fair chance. Edit: And sorry If I come across as harsh, I would just like to solve this problem which is the same for pretty much every season once and for all. Setting up leagues is tough yeah, but this quite simply stretches across a lot more time than the crunch time period that keeps on being mentioned.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18356&post=335448 Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:50:35 +0200 Reply by CannonFodd3r https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18356/page-14/?recent=335656#post=335445 can be arsed, even if I can not play at the moment and can not expect a lot in return. I think the first time I read about pre-season playoffs was about 3 days ago. In my experience, 4 days are not enough time to run proper playoff matches (especially if you have only 2 actual days because only few teams can be arsed to play on a weekend) and rushed decisions are rarely good anyway. Also, I do not know where I made a "fake proposal". What I said about pre-season playoffs was clearly my own opinion with the hint that it does not necessarily represent the opinion of the whole staff. Please elaborate. I am aware that being an admin is a very unrewarding job and you have to take a lot of shit as admin because someone will always be unhappy with your decisions but I would not expect someone as respected as you to suggest I "could not be arsed" or was "bullshitting fake proposals". What I am trying to do is collecting feedback and implementing it, if possible. We could as well just say "these are the divisions, deal with it". I would have talked to you directly but I could not find you on IRC. If you want to continue this discussion, query me please.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18356&post=335445 Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:34:41 +0200 Reply by illii https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18356/page-13/?recent=335656#post=335441 Quoted from Vali
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/5642/tournie.jpg Lets go.
choop choop]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18356&post=335441 Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:19:39 +0200 Reply by torden https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18356/page-13/?recent=335656#post=335435 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18356&post=335435 Sat, 17 Sep 2011 17:54:46 +0200 Reply by CannonFodd3r https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18356/page-13/?recent=335656#post=335432 Quoted from torden
Ah, so your offer was in fact not an offer, but an attempt to shut the arguements down.
Sure, it was an attempt to shut down the arguments that asked ETF2L to run pre-season playoffs for season 10 because I can not see it happening (as I personally do not have the time and the final tables are released tomorrow). If we had announced pre-season playoffs 2 days ago it would not have changed much. The teams would only have thursday, friday and saturday for the playoffs and I think you agree that it would be unfair to expect all teams that come into question to have time on such a short notice (not to speak of expecting them to play on a friday or saturday). The premier division is the only one that I am sure it will not undergo any changes until the final tables are released unless a current premiership team requests a lower division. If someone else wants to run pre-season playoffs with all teams that have a shot at winning division 1 and want to play and if CKRAS agrees as well, I would swap them with the winner. I can not make an offer without knowing if the rest of the staff agrees though but I asked them. Quoted from Bakaze
It should only be implemented next season, where the first two of div1 play the bottom two of prem. Then there would be no arguements about who should or shouldn't be playing the playoff.
This is actually very similar to what we have in mind for this season.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18356&post=335432 Sat, 17 Sep 2011 17:28:02 +0200 Reply by Bakaze https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18356/page-13/?recent=335656#post=335430 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18356&post=335430 Sat, 17 Sep 2011 17:24:59 +0200 Reply by torden https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-18356/page-13/?recent=335656#post=335418 Quoted from CanFo
[...] They are currently seeded above the other teams and we have no intention to change that at the moment unless they wish so.
Ah, so your offer was in fact not an offer, but an attempt to shut the arguements down.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=18356&post=335418 Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:31:07 +0200