ETF2L – Latest activity in “EO #4 RAGE!”

ETF2L – Latest activity in “EO #4 RAGE!” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-15739/ Reply by Thalash https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-15739/page-2/?recent=280314#post=280314 Quoted from Turbo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8a1GhNR9zo

Yeah.. Tho http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2dHAhJfRHg]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=15739&post=280314 Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:59:08 +0100 Reply by stwn https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-15739/page-2/?recent=280314#post=280130 Quoted from Chaos

[...]that's half my point. admins not actually answering questions. I don't feel any happier knowing that. Felt the same way when you were on the TF2TV podcast thing not so long ago. almost like you avoided questions. let my tell you about my day yesterday, help you understand why I'm so displeased. woke up at 9am. Was driven to a hospital to for a minor opperation. Came home, high on pain killers and was asked by my friends if I could merc in this cup. I didn't want to but they needed a demoman. I played the cup, while in a lot of pain and did quite well considering. Things you do for your friends right? Then after winning our first match, cup canceled without much of anything happening. A few teams had servers. 2 out of the 4 teams left in the lower bracket had one iirc. that's enough for the lower bracket to continue unharmed. Ruined what was already a pretty dire day tbh I understand it's a community league and all the admins are giving up free time. But if a volunteer at a charity shop does their job badly, they still get asked to leave. Volunteer or not, people are still accountable. Not blaming etf2l for my bad day.. just pointing that out

so whiny jesus, it's like you're the only person in the universe who has had a bad day, besides, it's not the 'volunteers'/admins fault now will you stop whining like a princess]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=15739&post=280130 Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:41:27 +0100 Reply by Hildreth https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-15739/page-2/?recent=280314#post=280119 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=15739&post=280119 Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:06:37 +0100 Reply by ashkan https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-15739/page-2/?recent=280314#post=279908 Quoted from Chaos

I miss d2m he was mad and bad but he got stuff done :( Also, you can't dismiss this fail so easily NetSky. Sorry but there was a lot of planning for a lot of teams. That's a lot of time wasted because etf2l/multiplay couldn't get their shit together.

Oh, after all their planning, the cup admins wasted your time because the servers couldn't update? All I have to say is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPxY8lpYAUM Next time things don't work out, just look for a pcw instead, takes 5 minutes.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=15739&post=279908 Tue, 22 Feb 2011 21:42:29 +0100 Reply by CrashSite https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-15739/page-2/?recent=280314#post=279891 Quoted from RaCio

[...]d2m didn't start/run the EO cups though, first one was around September.

More referring to the fact that we troll anything that is good, picking at the small faults and that is the reason why we shouldn't be allowed to have nice things.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=15739&post=279891 Tue, 22 Feb 2011 20:02:43 +0100 Reply by CannonFodd3r https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-15739/page-2/?recent=280314#post=279885 Quoted from Chaos

Then after winning our first match, cup canceled without much of anything happening. A few teams had servers. 2 out of the 4 teams left in the lower bracket had one iirc. that's enough for the lower bracket to continue unharmed.

This is not true. I know that 6 out of 8 teams in the lower bracket could not even play the first round because they did not have a running beta server.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=15739&post=279885 Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:43:50 +0100 Reply by RaCio https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-15739/page-2/?recent=280314#post=279867 Quoted from Waebi

i bet you're up for providing and updating servers the next time a beta cup comes around, right? I was in mumble with skyride and he was like "WTF, server wont update!" - and I bet that's what happened on the Multiplay side as well. Can't help it.

Pretty much yes, I spend the past week on requesting the servers and getting the profiles etc. working (Multiplay have been very helpful at that so no complaints there). Unfortunately the update process was very buggy and/or took ages and we couldn't get them working yesterday. The servers are working now though :) So we'll look at a restart for the cup. If someone wants to try a server (for a pcw/mix) give me a shout.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=15739&post=279867 Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:06:36 +0100 Reply by lclent https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-15739/page-2/?recent=280314#post=279863 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=15739&post=279863 Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:49:14 +0100 Reply by Chaos https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-15739/page-2/?recent=280314#post=279861 Quoted from RaCio

[...]d2m didn't start/run the EO cups though, first one was around September.

that's half my point. admins not actually answering questions. I don't feel any happier knowing that. Felt the same way when you were on the TF2TV podcast thing not so long ago. almost like you avoided questions. let my tell you about my day yesterday, help you understand why I'm so displeased. woke up at 9am. Was driven to a hospital to for a minor opperation. Came home, high on pain killers and was asked by my friends if I could merc in this cup. I didn't want to but they needed a demoman. I played the cup, while in a lot of pain and did quite well considering. Things you do for your friends right? Then after winning our first match, cup canceled without much of anything happening. A few teams had servers. 2 out of the 4 teams left in the lower bracket had one iirc. that's enough for the lower bracket to continue unharmed. Ruined what was already a pretty dire day tbh I understand it's a community league and all the admins are giving up free time. But if a volunteer at a charity shop does their job badly, they still get asked to leave. Volunteer or not, people are still accountable. Not blaming etf2l for my bad day.. just pointing that out]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=15739&post=279861 Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:45:12 +0100 Reply by RaCio https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-15739/page-2/?recent=280314#post=279856 Quoted from CrashSite

Well a few people forced D2M away, yelling 'he bad' and they mad, and now we can't have nice things such as EO's.

d2m didn't start/run the EO cups though, first one was around September.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=15739&post=279856 Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:30:49 +0100 Reply by adam-skyride https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-15739/page-1/?recent=280314#post=279851 Quoted from Chaos

as etf2l carries so much weight in the TF2 eSports scene, it needs to be accountable for mistakes like this.

http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/710588/North-American-Star-League-Exclusive-Interview-with-Geoff-iNcontroL-Robinson.html tl;dr: A new starcraft 2 league in NA was announced yesterday. Blizzard has sponsored them with $400,000 to start the league, $100,000 of it being used for the first 3 seasons prize pool ($100,000k PER SEASON) and the rest for costs. Every game will be casted, culminating in a LAN finals event in a studio created specifically for the event. TF2 is not an e-Sport. ETF2L are a great bunch of guys doing some great work in their spare time for a game they love and sometimes shit doesn't go according to plan. I wish the extremely vocal minority in this community who seemingly make it their goal in life to shit on every single thing ETF2L does would just stop, take a breath, and shut up. (no offense to you Chaos, i know this is a one off for you, but this thread is just pure bait to all the whiners).]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=15739&post=279851 Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:21:46 +0100 Reply by stwn https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-15739/page-1/?recent=280314#post=279845 Quoted from Chaos

think you misunderstood me. I like ETF2L.. Just think it's ridiculous that a cup is offered and then half completed. It might be a non profit cup for fun, but when an league such as etf2l carries so much weight in the TF2 eSports scene, it needs to be accountable for mistakes like this. It's not just this cup that's the issue. It's a whole range of things for example. adding prizes to the league only effects about 5 teams out of the 300+ that participate. Rest of us would just rather it's run really well and everybody feels catered for.

only mention you cup - that's what you get. also, prizes for top teams are good for the league and besides, it's not like admins spend their day securing prizes instead of responding to people !adminning in IRC, it doesn't affect how the league works in a big way they had no way to complete the cup on time, if they tried it wouldn't work, some people would leave, better to abort it than continue if its undoable]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=15739&post=279845 Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:13:46 +0100 Reply by waebi https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-15739/page-1/?recent=280314#post=279844 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=15739&post=279844 Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:13:45 +0100 Reply by Spike Himself https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-15739/page-1/?recent=280314#post=279842 Quoted from Chaos

we lost because we didn't care anymore.

I wonder how it was different for your opponent...]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=15739&post=279842 Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:12:25 +0100 Reply by Chaos https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-15739/page-1/?recent=280314#post=279841 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=feedback&topic=15739&post=279841 Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:09:34 +0100