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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;why fan is banned in afs&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by D2M</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-10356/page-2/?recent=182665#post=182665</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from octochris</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

I don't recall the results, I assumed that was it. If most people were against banning it, then it shouldn't be banned, surely?</blockquote>

ETF2L made no polls regarding any weapons in preparation for the AFS Season.

Additionally, as per the news post none of the weapon unlock rules have been finalised. Let's not have lots of threads opening up about it. The unlocks will be confirmed when the admins have finalised the complete ruleset for the summer season.

Hope that helps!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 23:37:45 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by BLondey</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-10356/page-2/?recent=182665#post=182664</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from skillboy</i>
		<blockquote>i have played 300h scout and 290h with Force-A-Nature!
I think the old sytem, which allowed one Force-A-Nature, is much better and it dosen´t forces players (like me) to switch.</blockquote>

You Get Nothing! 
You Lose! 
Good Day Sir!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 23:37:02 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Plasters</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-10356/page-2/?recent=182665#post=182660</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I hate many things, especially snipers and the FaN. Unfortunatly, I'd rather permit all unlocks or none, including community weapons.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 23:32:21 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Netsky</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-10356/page-2/?recent=182665#post=182653</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[it might be banned in AFS, but not in the regular season, MAYBE we want to provide a different playground, which means tc_hydro, erm wait, I mean just different unlocks.

Either way, general rule applies, if you don't like it, you don't have to sign up :)

EDIT: hehe, joking, of course we knew you played that much with the fan, and we did this on purpose to annoy you.
Mission: Success.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 23:22:15 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by SfnX</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-10356/page-2/?recent=182665#post=182652</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[go away kthxbye]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 23:20:35 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by n00ne</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-10356/page-2/?recent=182665#post=182651</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[It's a good thing that they banned that broken weapon.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 23:19:16 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Buffalo Bill</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-10356/page-2/?recent=182665#post=182648</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from randa</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

it was 50/50 what are you talking about bill</blockquote>

iirc it was 60% wanting a 1 fan limit.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 23:13:42 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by GuMMi16</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-10356/page-2/?recent=182665#post=182643</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I see youre point nymph and im completely fine with that...
But the admins need a big dickslap for changing shit without a reason... if they dont get an outrage when bending over to the wishes of the vanillas... they might aswell ban it from the real tournament.. 

which would make me sad :&#60;]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 23:01:59 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Nymthae</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-10356/page-2/?recent=182665#post=182639</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I think the change is a bit silly, but how I look at it.

It doesn't count to the "main" league, so you're not a risk of promotion or losing your spot, so calm down and enjoy it. You don't have to enter it...

It's a summer league, I expect more people would be motivated in playing a league where they don't get pissed off at FaN/TDH constantly otherwise they might as well just go outside and enjoy themselves, I see it as a bit of a plus from most people's eyes.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 22:56:01 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Koeitje</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-10356/page-2/?recent=182665#post=182634</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Good thing it is banned. At least now you actually need a meatshot to stop soldiers from reaching the spire for example.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 22:45:46 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by dotfloat</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-10356/page-1/?recent=182665#post=182629</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Can admins ban vanilla weapons? :P]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 22:33:30 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by tapley</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-10356/page-1/?recent=182665#post=182627</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I always wanted to get good at the TDH or at least give it a good go, but always thaught it would be banned so no point spending any hours on it.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 22:27:30 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by UPS</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-10356/page-1/?recent=182665#post=182619</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I think the admins just wanted to piss Gummy off.

:D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 22:16:41 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Relentless</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-10356/page-1/?recent=182665#post=182616</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[When the FAN was good it was allowed.
After it received nerfs it's banned.

High+ logic at it's finest.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 21:54:41 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by GuMMi16</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-10356/page-1/?recent=182665#post=182614</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[the old polls showed a favor of 1 fan allowed.... never polls show that 44% wants the fan to stay.. and that vote was even primarely based on div 1 players as far as i understand from vanillatf2. -.-...

so yeah basicly its 56% against 44%  så naturally the polyarchy wins cos the whiners are bumsexing the admins &#60;.&#60; ..

they already let the fan stay for 2 seasons letting people adapt  and making some poeple including myself dependant on it...

the fan has taken serveral nerfs and isnt rly overpowered anymore..yes it shoots faster but the reload time kinda gives it the same dps as the scattergun -.- 
knockback is handy on some maps and well shit on others.. which means its not a major advantage..

the etf2l admins are saying they want to try someting new... great idea lets do the game as it was 2 years ago .. pure vanilla.. good idea sounds new and original where did u get that idea ???

instead they should have tried to allow more unlocks to see what changes would happend to the gameplay...
general problem is the div1 &#34;pros&#34; are afraid some new weapon is gonna beat em.. gg -.-]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 21:48:35 +0200</pubDate>
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