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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Rubberbanding...&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by quintosh</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/customise/topic-26346/page-2/?recent=458446#post=458446</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI6lKNB8N1U
this is the shitty lag i'm getting everywhere since yesterday's update]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 22 Jun 2013 18:24:49 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by FreddyTeddy</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/customise/topic-26346/page-2/?recent=458446#post=458399</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from ondkaja</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

try setting cl_predict and cl_predictweapons to 1</blockquote>

These were all set to 1, but out of sheer curiousity and desperation I tried putting cl_predict to 0, and the rubberbanding actually stopped COMPLETELY. I played for around an hour with it and then stopped. I've tried changing it back to 1, but the rubberbanding seemed to be gone regardless, at least in the pubs I played on. I even tried using -autoconfig to make sure it was using all default settings, including the cl_predict command being set to 1, but the rubberbanding hasn't returned. 

I know that they released a very small update very recently (I think it was very late yesterday evening that people reported a 6.x mb update?) that was only a few mb, and there were no patch notes. I wonder if it could have contained a small fix for the rubberbanding or something? Because what has happened seems very odd to me, and it could be a coincidence that I happened to download this update right before I launched the game again and fiffled around with the settings?

If the rubberbanding returns again, I'll try to record some footage. Holy fuck this is weird.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 22 Jun 2013 02:25:06 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Vlijm</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/customise/topic-26346/page-2/?recent=458446#post=458281</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Try fixing it with these

http://cdn.funcheap.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Rubber-bands.jpg]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 14:24:01 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by quintosh</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/customise/topic-26346/page-2/?recent=458446#post=458278</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[didnt he already say that it's only on tf2?...]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 13:21:22 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CapTVK</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/customise/topic-26346/page-2/?recent=458446#post=458272</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Do you have any cloud related apps/utils running in the background like Dropbox or google drive?  When they're synching files it can effect your connection.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:54:18 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Pagan</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/customise/topic-26346/page-1/?recent=458446#post=458242</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I googled and i read "Disable multicore rendering" &#38; "Launch it on DirectX 9.0". Also someone wrote about "Disabling VSync" and "making sure you have the newest driver".
 
Maybe change some settings around. There is an Option under 3D-idontknowanymorewhatitwas (Nvidia) in your gpu driver where you can select "Maximal Performance". Didn't change anything about my graphics but fixed annoying PC-Crashes. (Experienced that shit myself...-.- But this helped me)

Maybe also try to temporarily not overclock anything on your PC. And if nothing-NOTHING works, clear the whole fucking machine and reinstall Windows+TF2. 

Note: I don't have a clue but I like googling :P]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 01:22:34 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kKaltUu</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/customise/topic-26346/page-1/?recent=458446#post=458188</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[(btw, back up your config if you haven't already)

I've seen it happen from time to time. If it's easy for you to reproduce, can you tell me what happens if you:

-host a local server
-use a f2p alt on the same PC
-use the lower limits for your cl_interp cl_interp_ratio rate cl_updaterate cl_cmdrate
-use the higher limits for your cl_interp cl_interp_ratio rate cl_updaterate cl_cmdrate]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 00:12:26 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Ond kaja</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/customise/topic-26346/page-1/?recent=458446#post=458187</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Freddy</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

That is what I think is so odd as well, because neither have I. But this is not happening for me in any other online game, it's only TF2. And despite net_graph showing my ping, choke, loss and rates to be completely fine, it still happens. It's not exactly teleporting in that sense though, it's more like you're going in one direction, and then it's like the server is "guessing" where you are and puts you back to that spot in a fast and fluid, and yet a sudden motion - like a rubberband getting stretched, then you release it and it flies back. A lot of people reported a similar issue right after Steampipe was released I think, but Valve were quick with a patch and that seemed to fix it for 95% of the "victims", while doing nothing or even making it worse for the rest.

Right now,  I have seen only a few people reporting this issue, but the ones who do all seem to have the exact same symptoms as me.

[...]

Nope, I crouchjump manually. I know what kind of lag you're talking about, and I do get that kind of lags too, but nowhere near as often as the rubberbanding thingie.</blockquote>

try setting cl_predict and cl_predictweapons to 1]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 00:08:59 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by FreddyTeddy</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Niicol</i>
		<blockquote>can you possibly make a video showing it?</blockquote>

I can try if I have time tomorrow]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2013 23:30:57 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Niicol</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[can you possibly make a video showing it?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2013 23:27:13 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by FreddyTeddy</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from AnimaL</i>
		<blockquote>never seen teleporting to be something else than internet/routing issue or servert lag... just sayin</blockquote>

That is what I think is so odd as well, because neither have I. But this is not happening for me in any other online game, it's only TF2. And despite net_graph showing my ping, choke, loss and rates to be completely fine, it still happens. It's not exactly teleporting in that sense though, it's more like you're going in one direction, and then it's like the server is "guessing" where you are and puts you back to that spot in a fast and fluid, and yet a sudden motion - like a rubberband getting stretched, then you release it and it flies back. A lot of people reported a similar issue right after Steampipe was released I think, but Valve were quick with a patch and that seemed to fix it for 95% of the "victims", while doing nothing or even making it worse for the rest.

Right now,  I have seen only a few people reporting this issue, but the ones who do all seem to have the exact same symptoms as me.

<i>Quoted from ondkaja</i>
		<blockquote>Do you have a crouch jump script installed? Some people have weird lags when they crouch jump.</blockquote>

Nope, I crouchjump manually. I know what kind of lag you're talking about, and I do get that kind of lags too, but nowhere near as often as the rubberbanding thingie.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2013 23:17:53 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by croaton</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Freddy</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Yours.

I know that expecting the majority of the responses on the etf2l forums to be constructive is like expecting a sloth to win a marathon, but can people PLEASE just shut up if they aren't trying to help? This problem is getting more and more frustrating, and right now I'm seriously NOT in the mood to deal with people who feel the need to show off their funnybone and increase their e-penis right now....</blockquote>

Pretty sure the problem is your PC.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2013 23:14:31 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Ond kaja</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Do you have a crouch jump script installed? Some people have weird lags when they crouch jump.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2013 23:05:46 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Animal</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[never seen teleporting to be something else than internet/routing issue or servert lag... just sayin]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2013 22:43:20 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by FreddyTeddy</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from ash</i>
		<blockquote>whose head?</blockquote>

Yours.

I know that expecting the majority of the responses on the etf2l forums to be constructive is like expecting a sloth to win a marathon, but can people PLEASE just shut up if they aren't trying to help? This problem is getting more and more frustrating, and right now I'm seriously NOT in the mood to deal with people who feel the need to show off their funnybone and increase their e-penis right now....]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2013 22:32:29 +0200</pubDate>
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