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    	    <title>Reply by gibix</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/customise/topic-20627/page-2/?recent=370999#post=370999</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from this is evil evil</i>
		<blockquote>I don't think his issue directly relates to the issue on that forum. The error he is getting relates to the kernel in the driver itself, which usually relates to a hardware error. But yes, seeing as he only gets this error in TF2, it might be within that scope.

But as always when you have these issues, you should keep all your drivers up to date. Not only your graphic card. Especially chipset drivers and sounds drivers are important too. If you use RAID, you should definitely keep your storage drivers up to date also.

Last but not least, always make sure you have the latest DirectX setups installed. You can download the websetup from here: http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=35 it will make sure you have all revisions of DX installed.</blockquote>

today it finally crashed again.... so the tdr fix isn't working for me either, i will install all my drivers and update them tomorow, i hope it works, because i really don't want to play at dxlevel 81 did that shit for years now, i finally have a pc that can handle the game at its fullest, otherwise i'm just gonna buy a ati card. (if i have the money for it :/ )]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2012 22:42:03 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by djshrew</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/customise/topic-20627/page-2/?recent=370999#post=370935</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[you any good a baking? need to oven bake that shit son.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrawP-F_FIA

200c for 9-10 mins, take all that you can remove off the card.

Heatsink + Fan.

***WARNING***
Also put the card in chip face up, dont put it face down. 
on the high power gpu's ur chip can drop off. ;) but 9800 should't matter, just face chip face up.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2012 17:09:45 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Linus</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/customise/topic-20627/page-2/?recent=370999#post=370873</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[had the same issue with my old gtx 260, would work perfectly in any game for any lenght of time, but tf2 would just randomly crash. ended up getting an amd card instead..]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2012 11:14:37 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Mandse</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/customise/topic-20627/page-1/?recent=370999#post=370872</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I don't think his issue directly relates to the issue on that forum. The error he is getting relates to the kernel in the driver itself, which usually relates to a hardware error. But yes, seeing as he only gets this error in TF2, it might be within that scope.

But as always when you have these issues, you should keep all your drivers up to date. Not only your graphic card. Especially chipset drivers and sounds drivers are important too. If you use RAID, you should definitely keep your storage drivers up to date also.

Last but not least, always make sure you have the latest DirectX setups installed. You can download the websetup from here: http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=35 it will make sure you have all revisions of DX installed.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2012 11:11:35 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by T4F JohnRambo</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/customise/topic-20627/page-1/?recent=370999#post=370735</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I have tried every possible fix including the TDR fix, but nothing worked. The only real solution is to play Tf2 with DX-Level 8.1.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 18:18:38 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by gibix</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/customise/topic-20627/page-1/?recent=370999#post=370721</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from JohnnyBambo</i>
		<blockquote>This is a known bug in TF2 with Nvidia DX10 graphic cards.
There is a huge thread on the steam forums about it and there is no working fix for this issue. I hope among many others that Nvidia or Valve will fix it soon. More Information about it here: http://forums.steamgames.com/forums/showthread.php?s=89caba2252ebfd939c9e0577c6a47a06&#38;t=1774666</blockquote>

as far as i read on other forums this is a problem with the TDR protocol (timeout detection and recovery)

i found on the same steam forum thread that you linked a possible solution, i just did this http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1774666&#38;page=2 and i hope it will work, i will keep you guys posted if my game will crash again]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 17:34:40 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by gibix</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/customise/topic-20627/page-1/?recent=370999#post=370720</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from this is evil evil</i>
		<blockquote>Hello good sir

Do you play any other games? If so; does these intermittent crashes occur as well in other games? usually when you get these errors they are power related I'm afraid, but if you only get them in TF2, then I don't think it's hardware related at all :)</blockquote>

it only happens in tf2, other games are fine, i have read in other forums were they say its hardware related, but tbh that just doesnt make sense since it only happens in tf2 and it only happens since i installed win 7]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 17:31:25 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by T4F JohnRambo</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/customise/topic-20627/page-1/?recent=370999#post=370669</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[This is a known bug in TF2 with Nvidia DX10 graphic cards.
There is a huge thread on the steam forums about it and there is no working fix for this issue. I hope among many others that Nvidia or Valve will fix it soon. More Information about it here: http://forums.steamgames.com/forums/showthread.php?s=89caba2252ebfd939c9e0577c6a47a06&#38;t=1774666]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 12:59:18 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Mandse</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/customise/topic-20627/page-1/?recent=370999#post=370668</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Hello good sir

Do you play any other games? If so; does these intermittent crashes occur as well in other games? usually when you get these errors they are power related I'm afraid, but if you only get them in TF2, then I don't think it's hardware related at all :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 12:53:23 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by gibix</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[played for 2 - 3 hours without crashing, i deleted my tf2 and reinstalled it, installed a hud and no crash, so dont know.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 22:37:22 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Garm3n</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/customise/topic-20627/page-1/?recent=370999#post=370598</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[It has nothing to do with custom huds, i've tried every hud i know of and the default one, same thing happends no matter what. I've tried reinstalling Steam and Windows, nope. I've tried everything i can think of, still crashes. On Steam Forums is a thread about this, and we aren't alone. There's really many having this problem.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 21:23:09 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Jorman</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[I don't use any custom huds (or any custom content for that matter) and I've been getting that error for ages, half a year or a full year now. And I am completely clueless of what's causing the error, and just got used to it :( If anyone knows about any potential fixes (I don't think rolling back to a year old driver would help, or is a sane solution in any way) let us know :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 21:02:24 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by gibix</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/customise/topic-20627/page-1/?recent=370999#post=370590</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[i read somewhere that the problem may be using a custom hud, i just reinstalled tf2 with default hud, and no crash in the past 2 hours, so i hope i fixed it, im now gonna try it with a hud]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 20:52:37 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Kastos</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Suffering from the same problems as Gibix for over 2 months now. It only seems to occur in tournament-mode for me though. Also have tried the solution mentioned by Spike, unfortunalty it doesn't fix the problem... 

Edit: Btw I am running an Nvidea Geforce GTX 260 with the latest drivers on a Windows 7 32 bits..]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 19:25:23 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Trying an older version of the drivers is worth a shot then, I'd say :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 19:17:31 +0100</pubDate>
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