ETF2L – Latest activity in “TF2Center Update: Advanced Lobbies!” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-31674/ Reply by Theo Berlin https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-31674/page-19/?recent=539853#post=539853 Quoted from Hildreth
[...] Have to look at numbers before you can label it a failure. Are people playing? Is money being made by TF2C? Are people returning....data only TF2C hold.
What a failure actually is varies from person to person, and honestly from a player's perspective I'm pretty sure it can still be called a failure even though someone's making money out of it.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=31674&post=539853 Wed, 08 Jul 2015 16:57:38 +0200 Reply by gilad1280 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-31674/page-19/?recent=539853#post=539848 Quoted from Schalla
That would remove one of the plus things of the ALs, so you would loose a reason to buy it. Economy & Marketing sucks. :P
regular lobbies seem to be more balanced than AL. seriously the ones I played are 10 minute rolls. and most players think that because they are capable of playing AL it means their hot shit so no one actually cares about what they need to do.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=31674&post=539848 Wed, 08 Jul 2015 16:04:37 +0200 Reply by fraac https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-31674/page-19/?recent=539853#post=539845 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=31674&post=539845 Wed, 08 Jul 2015 15:38:15 +0200 Reply by DSchalla https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-31674/page-19/?recent=539853#post=539844 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=31674&post=539844 Wed, 08 Jul 2015 15:23:58 +0200 Reply by fraac https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-31674/page-19/?recent=539853#post=539842 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=31674&post=539842 Wed, 08 Jul 2015 15:14:26 +0200 Reply by Theoz https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-31674/page-19/?recent=539853#post=539841 Quoted from Schalla
I think some 6s started tho.
As a professional lobby hero - I am here to share some of my experience. 6v6 ALs is usually filled with the same noobs you see in normal lobbies. On a good day, it will take around 3-4 (10 maybe???????????) full normal 6v6 lobbies until a 6v6 AL gets some activity/fills up. Imo, there's nothing unique about AL besides watching paint dry. If you want to chill and play the greatest competitive format TF2 has to offer, play a normal lobby which is free and quick, but has a high risk of dank meme preteens and lack of flanks and positions =))))))))))))))))]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=31674&post=539841 Wed, 08 Jul 2015 15:02:10 +0200 Reply by Goreston https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-31674/page-19/?recent=539853#post=539840 Quoted from Munky
[...] That would have been a much more efficient way to financially back future petty slights against former admins.
Heh.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=31674&post=539840 Wed, 08 Jul 2015 14:57:06 +0200 Reply by DSchalla https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-31674/page-19/?recent=539853#post=539838 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=31674&post=539838 Wed, 08 Jul 2015 13:31:16 +0200 Reply by Munkyman https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-31674/page-19/?recent=539853#post=539825 Quoted from Hildreth
[...] Have to look at numbers before you can label it a failure. Are people playing? Is money being made by TF2C? Are people returning....data only TF2C hold.
People have stopped playing them. I have barely seen one launch in the last couple of days while a week or two back they were slowish to launch but did start pretty regularly . Maybe it is slightly better in NA but I think the same thing was happening there (though to a lesser extent). So unless things improve it will be a failure. I would probably say splitting the user base in the way it has been isn't ever going to work. Giving lobby leaders more options when making lobbies (randomised, UGC/ETF2L requirements, etc) would have worked better and if they wanted a way to make money then they could have allowed donors to skip requirements. That would have been a much more efficient way to financially back future petty slights against former admins.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=31674&post=539825 Wed, 08 Jul 2015 08:29:14 +0200 Reply by Hildreth https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-31674/page-19/?recent=539853#post=539818 Quoted from Munky
Unrelated to all the drama I would say Advanced lobbies has been a failure. Even taking away the monetary requirements they weren't filling and a lot of it was due to the flawed way they were structured. Honestly just adding the option of normal lobbies being randomised would have been a nice update. Maybe advanced lobbies would have worked if people knew they wouldn't cost money in the future idk but as they are now they are a failure.
Have to look at numbers before you can label it a failure. Are people playing? Is money being made by TF2C? Are people returning....data only TF2C hold.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=31674&post=539818 Wed, 08 Jul 2015 05:23:55 +0200 Reply by lazybear https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-31674/page-18/?recent=539853#post=539814 Quoted from aura
everything related to 9v9 has become so aids that I think most of the people here would be glad if etf2l stopped hosting highlander competitions
How is this at all related to 9v9? tf2center is the biggest 6vs6 site in terms of actual lobbies, and no prem players in hl use tf2center really. It's all private mixes, invites and tf2pickup just like 6s players. Ever played a 6s lobby in tf2center? It's just as noobish as their hl lobbies...]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=31674&post=539814 Wed, 08 Jul 2015 03:44:00 +0200 Reply by Munkyman https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-31674/page-18/?recent=539853#post=539808 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=31674&post=539808 Wed, 08 Jul 2015 02:19:30 +0200 Reply by Scissors-HL https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-31674/page-18/?recent=539853#post=539783 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=31674&post=539783 Tue, 07 Jul 2015 21:54:33 +0200 Reply by lewish1135 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-31674/page-18/?recent=539853#post=539780 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=31674&post=539780 Tue, 07 Jul 2015 21:31:32 +0200 Reply by SilverAura https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-31674/page-18/?recent=539853#post=539778 Quoted from Hildreth
[...] This might be the dumbest thing I have read for a while. This is a dead horse, lets stop beating it and get on with some positive stuff.
Wooow, Someone on the internet is wrong. I was really looking forward to your opinion. Keep it up, it's really important to me.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=31674&post=539778 Tue, 07 Jul 2015 21:22:17 +0200