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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;UKeSA Open Division Season Two&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by shifty</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-2700/page-2/?recent=35926#post=35926</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Oh right, premiership and championship sign-ups are live on there too, could make an announcement really ;/]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 10:30:19 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kaidus</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-2700/page-2/?recent=35926#post=35878</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Maybe it would help if the website didn't suck complete and utter shit.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 02:00:48 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kattkuk</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-2700/page-2/?recent=35926#post=35875</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA["our UKeSA experience:

week 1 vs exe. We steamrolled them
week 2 vs FOG. Default win.
week 3 vs Vale. We got steamrolled.
week 4 vs PK. Default win.
week 5 vs fm!. Default win.
week 6 vs CiC. Default win.
week 7 vs FB. Presumed default win since they haven’t played a game yet.

Great tournament would pay £50 again!"

sry, but we had to give default because of the locked rosters, we had a new lineup ready the next week :/]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 01:44:43 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by DeNeusbeer</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-2700/page-1/?recent=35926#post=35874</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Allright, there's a playoff stage, i didn't know that :D Matter of fact, i can't find any information about it anywhere. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

But besides that, i don't play for money, or to win (well, just a bit). If i did, i would have signed up for the championship division. Considering that, everyone in the open division has to play around 5 boring matches (give or take) where most of the outcome will be set. The amount of teams and especially the skill difference between them is a bit too big for me to call such a season interesting. While i'm sure playoffs are cool and all, they get you nothing if you win besides some e-fame. I do not see the reasoning behind making the season boring for pretty much every team, so a few of those teams can play their playoffs to gain what exactly?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 01:33:13 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by m1neraL</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-2700/page-1/?recent=35926#post=35689</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Lol Jimmy :P]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:36:02 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by JimmyBreeze</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-2700/page-1/?recent=35926#post=35674</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[our UKeSA experience:

week 1 vs exe. We steamrolled them
week 2 vs FOG. Default win.
week 3 vs Vale. We got steamrolled.
week 4 vs PK. Default win.
week 5 vs fm!. Default win.
week 6 vs CiC. Default win.
week 7 vs FB. Presumed default win since they haven't played a game yet.

Great tournament would pay £50 again!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:39:56 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by TonyGappa</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-2700/page-1/?recent=35926#post=35673</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[F2, if the best teams play in the same division, you wont even need playoffs. Playing teams that are nowhere near your skill level is boring and a waste of time.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:30:02 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by F2</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-2700/page-1/?recent=35926#post=35670</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Deneusbeer, they should spread the best teams out, because the two best teams from each division goes off to a playoff round to find who is the winner. If you had all best teams in one division it wouldn't be the best teams playing in the playoffs.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:22:33 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by jason</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-2700/page-1/?recent=35926#post=35666</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I'd like to see a bit of seeding in the open championship.

Phoenix (div 6 ETF2L) had two wins (defaults), two draws against the teams that were about our level (div 5) and had a hammering from the three remaining teams from div 2, 3 and 4 of ETF2L.

The div 2 team took us to pieces with a sandvich equipped heavy! :P

Seeding would be nice - much as we like to play higher class teams, does a div 2 team really enjoy beating a low skill team in just over 16 minutes?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:37:45 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by torden</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-2700/page-1/?recent=35926#post=35658</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I really hope that tf2 will sign at least as many teams as last season. UKeSA, while not perfect seems to be a big boost for forwarding tf2 in the competative scene.

I know that might be easy to say for a member of a team that is recieving a retainer, but in all fairness, that retainer is for paying expenses (like lan) and not pocket money.

If there are teams disatisfied with the current system, we should find a way on how that feedback best can be delivered to the UKeSA. Dunc, any suggestions?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:05:37 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by ViQun</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-2700/page-1/?recent=35926#post=35653</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I want a team :(]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:42:11 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Amonsilas</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-2700/page-1/?recent=35926#post=35652</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Nope! :D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:39:28 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Springer</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-2700/page-1/?recent=35926#post=35633</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[will be staged at London’s famous Olympia Exhibition Centre between <b>20th – 21st June, 2009,</b> and is expected to draw more than 25,000 games enthusiasts from all over the country.

exams someone?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 10:45:17 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Amonsilas</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-2700/page-1/?recent=35926#post=35629</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Team Fruit _will be_ in the Championship in the second season. Everybody sign up and represent TF2 in the big world of UK eSports! :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 09:47:29 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by DeNeusbeer</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-2700/page-1/?recent=35926#post=35608</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Hmm, i'm wondering how the divisions will be made this time. In season one they spread the good and less good teams out over the divisions, so every div had some good teams, and some less good teams.

That wasn't really interesting. You most likely knew the outcome of most matches beforehand. My team for example has had 2 matches we knew we'd lose badle, which we did. We also had 4 matches we knew we'd win relatively easily, which we did. We only had 1 interesting match, which was our first one. So basically the 1st week match was a battle for 3rd place in our div. After that, the outcome was set in stone.

Those kind of matches do not really appeal to me. I'd rather have people put the better and the worse teams in separate divs to make a season interesting. (like every other league does) I understand why they've spread it out in championship, for the finals and such, but with the open division, having no prizes, i don't see the point in that. I'm not sure if we'll be participating if it stays that way, there's plenty other leagues/tournaments that can give us more interesting matches.

P.S: a signup period of almost 4 months :D half the teams that can signup now will have disbanded by then.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 02:07:20 +0200</pubDate>
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