ETF2L – Latest activity in “ESA TF2 Cup #5 starting on Sunday, August 11 @ 21.00 CEST + ruleset poll” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-26895/ Reply by Admirable https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-26895/page-2/?recent=465809#post=465809 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=26895&post=465809 Mon, 12 Aug 2013 23:11:37 +0200 Reply by Sideshow https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-26895/page-2/?recent=465809#post=465699 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=26895&post=465699 Sun, 11 Aug 2013 23:43:18 +0200 Reply by Kalho https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-26895/page-2/?recent=465809#post=465609 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=26895&post=465609 Sun, 11 Aug 2013 03:13:38 +0200 Reply by themast https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-26895/page-2/?recent=465809#post=465606 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=26895&post=465606 Sun, 11 Aug 2013 02:11:00 +0200 Reply by Enef https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-26895/page-2/?recent=465809#post=465605 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=26895&post=465605 Sun, 11 Aug 2013 02:10:50 +0200 Reply by GeaR https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-26895/page-2/?recent=465809#post=465590 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=26895&post=465590 Sat, 10 Aug 2013 22:18:06 +0200 Reply by Snyppsis https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-26895/page-2/?recent=465809#post=465569 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=26895&post=465569 Sat, 10 Aug 2013 19:37:35 +0200 Reply by CannonFodd3r https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-26895/page-2/?recent=465809#post=465568 Quoted from Snyyppis
... The community simply isn't that big/active in order to achieve decent sign-up numbers that way.
This community has over 300 active teams but you are right, it was never easy to motivate teams to sign up at other sites for cups, be it ESH or Excello. Quoted from Snyyppis
Not to mention all the usual stuff like promotion (one vanilla post), possibility for poor games (everyone loves 5-0 rolls), summer (like anyone here goes out, right?), different setup to i49 (unlocks, na ruleset). Some teams just prefer an organized pcw to these cups...
What do you mean with promotion? I do not want to spam VTF2 so I do not publish more than 1 post per cup. Would you prefer more? The 5-0 rolls should be taken care of for a bigger part with the skill tiers. Summer and the rulesets are fair points, I might do something about the latter. Quoted from Mayowa05
I suggest using ESEA unlocks if you would prefer the cup to have unlocks, those unlocks are tested and are balanced so there will be no problems with that. Also maybe resort to the one day cup format as having to be available for 3 days in a row can be a bit inconvenient.
The main criticism about the one day cups were that they started so early (which lies in the nature of one day cups. They either start early or end late). I changed that now, seeing it is off-season and there are no regular matches anymore except for national players and also gave some flexibility for the scheduling. You do not have to be available 3 days in a row, you have to be available on Sunday evening and Monday OR Tuesday and Wednesday OR Thursday. I might just use ESEA unlocks next time, if that is what people prefer to try out.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=26895&post=465568 Sat, 10 Aug 2013 19:19:11 +0200 Reply by Mayowa05 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-26895/page-2/?recent=465809#post=465567 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=26895&post=465567 Sat, 10 Aug 2013 18:44:18 +0200 Reply by Snyppsis https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-26895/page-2/?recent=465809#post=465556 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=26895&post=465556 Sat, 10 Aug 2013 17:36:42 +0200 Reply by Enef https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-26895/page-1/?recent=465809#post=465551 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=26895&post=465551 Sat, 10 Aug 2013 16:48:12 +0200 Reply by Ond kaja https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-26895/page-1/?recent=465809#post=465549 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=26895&post=465549 Sat, 10 Aug 2013 16:43:04 +0200 Reply by CannonFodd3r https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-26895/page-1/?recent=465809#post=465539 Quoted from Zebbosai
maybe go back to etf2l unlocks? when u added more unlocks people stopped signing up
Here are the signup numbers: #2 (ETF2L unlocks) had 17 teams #3 (Quickfix, GRU, etc) had 18 teams #4 (GRU, etc) had 16 teams From this, I can not derive that people stopped signing up when more unlocks got allowed but as I said, if the GRU really are the problem, I will remove them. I just fear that not bringing in more unlocks and especially classes into the meta game will not do our scene any good in the long run (top players get bored and quit, no new fresh blood, declining viewership, declining prize pools, no Valve support). I am not saying that allowing unlocks will solve all problems at once but I do believe it is part of the solution.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=26895&post=465539 Sat, 10 Aug 2013 15:22:20 +0200 Reply by Zebbosai https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-26895/page-1/?recent=465809#post=465537 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=26895&post=465537 Sat, 10 Aug 2013 15:11:41 +0200 Reply by CannonFodd3r https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-26895/page-1/?recent=465809#post=465531 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=26895&post=465531 Sat, 10 Aug 2013 14:46:34 +0200