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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;ESA Ozone Open Cup #3 on Sunday, July 21 @ 16.45 CEST&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by fraac</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-26743/page-2/?recent=463160#post=463160</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Just discovering that everyone plays highlander on Mondays. My third totally new ESA team coming up!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2013 20:23:33 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CannonFodd3r</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from fraac</i>
		<blockquote>I'm not espousing double elimination, just saying that single elimination gives really skewed amounts of data depending on skill. You'll know exactly how much better Broder are than Infused but struggle to tell apart 30 low and mid teams. I'm certain this will still be a problem in 2 weeks, unless you really hype up these midweek tournaments.</blockquote>
Hm... I think I understand what you are getting at. Well, I can not force anyone to play to get ranked. I can only give you the opportunity to get more matches against equally skilled teams to get a ranking to join the ranked weekly tournaments.

Besides, anyone can create tournaments at ESA (even invite only ones) and all matches will add to the ranking.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2013 20:05:46 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by fraac</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-26743/page-2/?recent=463160#post=463155</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I'm not espousing double elimination, just saying that single elimination gives really skewed amounts of data depending on skill. You'll know exactly how much better Broder are than Infused but struggle to tell apart 30 low and mid teams. I'm certain this will still be a problem in 2 weeks, unless you really hype up these midweek tournaments.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2013 20:00:49 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CannonFodd3r</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from fraac</i>
		<blockquote>I'm concerned that if you stick with single elimination tournaments and your own rankings, it will be hard to separate teams. 7 or 8 first round defeats might be offputting for 'low' teams, and 'mid' teams may be hard to discern. You get tons of data on top teams.</blockquote>
Double Elimination takes a lot more time than Single Elimination, unfortunately. Do you think this will still be an issue for the ranked tournaments that are starting in 2 weeks? Because I don't.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2013 19:55:25 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by fraac</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-26743/page-1/?recent=463160#post=463152</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I'm concerned that if you stick with single elimination tournaments and your own rankings, it will be hard to separate teams. 7 or 8 first round defeats might be offputting for 'low' teams, and 'mid' teams may be hard to discern. You get tons of data on top teams.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2013 19:49:02 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CannonFodd3r</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-26743/page-1/?recent=463160#post=463098</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Maybe, Admirable, maybe... The GRU, however, is an unlock that has been specifically asked for.

I will watch the VoDs from the semis and the final later but in the meantime, here are a few questions to the people who played yesterday.

- Which unlocks (apart from the "standard" ones) did you use? Which of the unlocks you used were useful/useless/OP?
- Did you use the AC? Did you have any problems using the AC?
- How was the schedule and how would you change it to improve it?

(I will also gladly accept pms, especially from players of Epsi/broder/infs)

Also, we've created a 4 team bracket fun cup for tonight (Monday) and tomorrow (Tuesday) for low and mid teams. Kuferl will help out with these cups.
Tonight's low bracket is already full (assuming all teams check in), the mid bracket still has some slots.  "Obey the Brave" and "Dangerous IQ" signed up for both brackets, I have approved you for "low" now, let me know if you want me to change that. I will not allow any higher skilled teams in these tournaments so if you want to be matched against equally skilled teams, please sign up. Teams I would consider "low" are allowed in the mid bracket, but not the other way around.
We might add some more tournaments during the next days (depending on our own schedule for this week's evenings) so please check out the tournament page frequently: https://esagamer.com/tournaments

If you want to participate in the skill tiered tournaments in August, I strongly advise you to play a few matches at ESA. Only ranked teams will be allowed in the tiered tournaments and to get ranked, your team needs a few (7 or 8, I believe) matches under its belt!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2013 13:59:07 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Admirable</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-26743/page-1/?recent=463160#post=463065</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I noticed (after the cup had started) that 3 of the unlocks tested are already banned in ESEA (GRU, Short Circuit and Cosy Camper). Would the ESEA ban list have been a good place to start?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2013 03:50:16 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Arie</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-26743/page-1/?recent=463160#post=463058</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[All the VanillaTV VODs spanning the entire cup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lXoZVXeq8s&#38;list=SPayp9cpOkRhM2xv8DFZnfsF1gb7JEPCC0]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2013 03:18:00 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CannonFodd3r</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-26743/page-1/?recent=463160#post=462991</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Check in is open! https://esagamer.com/tournaments/55]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2013 17:55:35 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Lyrete</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-26743/page-1/?recent=463160#post=462980</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Hoping we have fun.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2013 16:02:01 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CannonFodd3r</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-26743/page-1/?recent=463160#post=462968</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Sitting at 21 signups now, assuming all teams check in (15.45-16.30 CEST), the slot count will remain at 32 teams and the top 10 seeds or so get a bye for round 1.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2013 13:55:02 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CannonFodd3r</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Sideshow</i>
		<blockquote>whoooo made the AC?</blockquote>
A member of the ESA staff. He is CS:GO admin and goes by the name of zgrav.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 20 Jul 2013 20:40:07 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Sideshow</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-26743/page-1/?recent=463160#post=462879</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[whoooo made the AC?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 20 Jul 2013 20:37:28 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CannonFodd3r</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[16 signups now, looks like I can leave the cup size as it is but the top seeds will probably get a first round bye again.

Re lower tournaments: I will set up some 8 team tournaments with skill limitations tomorrow and bump this thread when I've added them.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 20 Jul 2013 18:49:25 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by fraac</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from CanFo</i>
		<blockquote>If I was hosting a couple of smaller tournaments during the week for low- and mid ranked teams only (and unranked teams whose skill I will judge myself) so you can all play a few matches and get your team ranked for August, would you play in these?</blockquote>

My team would play these so long as they weren't on non-standard maps or with too many unlocks (though quickfix is fine).]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 20 Jul 2013 18:06:37 +0200</pubDate>
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