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    	    <title>Reply by Fog</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-25088/page-4/?recent=447439#post=447439</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Ordinator</i>
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No, ive rented server from Fog, its working and all nice, but i cant upload tftrue .dll and .so access denied.</blockquote>I've yet to run into this issue. I'll install the plugin for you right away

EDIT: With that being said, I've added TFTrue as a default addon with all game servers]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 23:36:29 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by ShiFt_02</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-25088/page-4/?recent=447439#post=447438</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Ordinator</i>
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No, ive rented server from Fog, its working and all nice, but i cant upload tftrue .dll and .so access denied.</blockquote>Why would you install both .dll &#38; .so? Also since I already played couple of lobbies just to test out how the server performs I gotta admit it works flawlessly! Keep it up Fog.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 23:33:33 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Ordinator</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-25088/page-4/?recent=447439#post=447436</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Crafz</i>
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Who said that? If you mean that you can't install plug-ins on servers which you rent form Aries reservation system then yes.</blockquote>
No, ive rented server from Fog, its working and all nice, but i cant upload tftrue .dll and .so access denied.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 23:26:58 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by nitro_mint</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-25088/page-4/?recent=447439#post=447434</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Ordinator</i>
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so i cant instal tftrue to my server?</blockquote>
Who said that? If you mean that you can't install plug-ins on servers which you rent form Aries reservation system then yes.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 23:19:23 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Ordinator</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-25088/page-4/?recent=447439#post=447433</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Fog</i>
		<blockquote>If you guys like the server on the reservation system from Arie, and want to have your own, come pick up a server today!</blockquote>
so i cant instal tftrue to my server?
also for some reason its crashing randomly]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 23:14:41 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Fog</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-25088/page-3/?recent=447439#post=446820</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[If you guys like the server on the reservation system from Arie, and want to have your own, come pick up a server today!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2013 01:53:06 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Animal</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-25088/page-3/?recent=447439#post=446562</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[+1 used fogsservers.com server from reservation, was great]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:23:39 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Arie</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-25088/page-3/?recent=447439#post=446559</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Honestly there's a lot of gameserver providers that have just 1 guy running it in 1 timezone. 
I wouldn't worry about it considering the costs and the length of your contract.

Also, the server provided by Fog to the reservation system has been amazing so far, so take it for a spin! :) <a href="http://server.fakkelbrigade.eu/reservations/new?server_id=16">http://server.fakkelbrigade.eu/reservations/new?server_id=16</a>]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:15:19 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by maidos</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-25088/page-3/?recent=447439#post=446537</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[students who dont get that much money? 
as they have other priorities like buying course books, food, rent etc etc

its bigger deal for ppl who live in an actual dorm u know

Wouldnt you want a gameserver with reliability that u know someone can assist u if the server isnt working properly?

would u wanna buy a packaged sealed sandwish that shows no expiry date and no way to see the actual sandwish? 
<i>Quoted from Spike Himself</i>
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Huge risk? It's a game server. It costs just over a tenner per month. Where's the 'huge' in that?

Yes there is a chance you can lose 10 euros if the guy suddenly disappears. Woohoo big deal..</blockquote>]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2013 12:14:17 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-25088/page-3/?recent=447439#post=446536</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from maidos</i>
		<blockquote>Im stating what the bottleneck is with one-man operation and if you cant even realize the huge risk as a customer would be taking then you are sadly ignorant about it.</blockquote>

Huge risk? It's a game server. It costs just over a tenner per month. Where's the 'huge' in that?

Yes there is a chance you can lose 10 euros if the guy suddenly disappears. Woohoo big deal..]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2013 12:09:55 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by maidos</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-25088/page-3/?recent=447439#post=446533</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Im stating what the bottleneck is with one-man operation and if you cant even realize the huge risk as a customer would be taking then you are sadly ignorant about it.

1st its a company he is running not a community service. It does not matter how much tf2 guy he is. He is expected to have knowledge to provide assistance should customer inquire about something.

2nd: IT still comes with a risk for a "paying" customer should fog not be available for techsupport as he could become sick, electricity in his house is dead or whatever reasons that hinder him from being online in fashion manner'

3rd: as explained on my 2nd point, if he has those issue at the same time that a customer pays for his month then obviously it doesnt work that well with customer trust anymore and create a bad reputation. What if the server dies and theres no support for hours/days? Then its likely he will ask his bank to do a chargeback


<i>Quoted from slate</i>
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You also really shouldn't talk down on this being a one-man operation, the obvious benefit is, that he is a TF2 guy. If he were to really just quit because of IRL Issues it's not exactly a problem to get a new gameserver elsewhere within a few hours.

</blockquote>]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2013 12:05:05 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Arie</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-25088/page-3/?recent=447439#post=444731</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Ordinator</i>
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Well now its looking more interesting. Test server would be nice.</blockquote>

Fog has generously provided a server for the FakkelBrigade server reservation system, try it! :) 
<a href="http://server.fakkelbrigade.eu/">http://server.fakkelbrigade.eu/</a>]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 19 Apr 2013 12:30:46 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Ordinator</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-25088/page-3/?recent=447439#post=444729</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Fog</i>
		<blockquote>You guys do have a point on the prices, I've decided to reduce the pricing for 14 slot private servers to 12 euros, thus making all the other server slots 3 euros cheaper. Also, I've removed the charging for public servers.

I'll look at making a server for the reservation system</blockquote>
Well now its looking more interesting. Test server would be nice.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 19 Apr 2013 12:14:42 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by nitro_mint</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-25088/page-3/?recent=447439#post=444639</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Arie</i>
		<blockquote>* Added a FogsServers server to the reservation system :)

The first commercial server added to the reservation system, woot!
More info on renting from Fog here: <a href="http://etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-25088/page-3/?recent=444499#post-444499">http://etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-25088/page-3/?recent=444499#post-444499</a>

Try it out and let me/Fog know what you think!

I was expecting a certain other server company to be the first (contact me bro!), but Fog has the premiere :)</blockquote>
Good move, I guess. Depends on the quality/pricing of your servers now.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 19 Apr 2013 00:09:34 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Fog</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-25088/page-3/?recent=447439#post=444499</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[You guys do have a point on the prices, I've decided to reduce the pricing for 14 slot private servers to 12 euros, thus making all the other server slots 3 euros cheaper. Also, I've removed the charging for public servers.

I'll look at making a server for the reservation system]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2013 21:23:35 +0200</pubDate>
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