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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Highlander pickup channel - #tf2.pug.hl&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by kKaltUu</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-23803/page-5/?recent=541839#post=541839</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[the spreadsheet is still going strong]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2015 14:16:13 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Sm0_ck - EU</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-23803/page-5/?recent=541839#post=541838</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[What happend to the channel, I liked the community there

is the a HL replacement becides tf2centre or tf2pickup? you know with captains and stuff.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2015 14:08:45 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Q-Ball</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-23803/page-5/?recent=541839#post=466250</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[It is almost done now, lads.
Only working on the game/mumble server at the moment.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 15 Aug 2013 19:06:29 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Q-Ball</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-23803/page-5/?recent=541839#post=465065</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from EmilioEstevez</i>
		<blockquote>Will this contain some of the features and flexibility of the HL mix spreadsheet currently in use, just with steam integration and a clean UI?
At the moment we have multiple mixes at any one time scheduled up to days in advance at times, people can sign up as substitute, we can reserve slots for others, we can set skill requirements and the mix creator has ultimate say over who plays. People also have to be in the Colony steam group to use it, so they get announcements on steam when somebody puts up a new mix.

It looks really cool, but it may be difficult for it to reach critical mass if it releases with a much reduced feature set to what we already have. The demand is definitely there though, the mix spreadsheet frequently sees 10+ mixes a day sometimes as of late.

Hope I'm not being too negative bc it looks good :P</blockquote>
I'm afraid there won't be fixed schedule mixes, at least not now.
From the start, the point of this pickup was to replace irc bot, and, accordingly, its functionality. Otherwise, it's going to become another lobby instead of a pickup.
But yeah, I will see what I can do about it.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 21:11:02 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by EmilioEstevez</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-23803/page-5/?recent=541839#post=465050</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Will this contain some of the features and flexibility of the HL mix spreadsheet currently in use, just with steam integration and a clean UI?
At the moment we have multiple mixes at any one time scheduled up to days in advance at times, people can sign up as substitute, we can reserve slots for others, we can set skill requirements and the mix creator has ultimate say over who plays. People also have to be in the Colony steam group to use it, so they get announcements on steam when somebody puts up a new mix.

It looks really cool, but it may be difficult for it to reach critical mass if it releases with a much reduced feature set to what we already have. The demand is definitely there though, the mix spreadsheet frequently sees 10+ mixes a day sometimes as of late.

Hope I'm not being too negative bc it looks good :P]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 20:03:34 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by PoisonedPython</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Q-Ball</i>
		<blockquote>All the basic things are working at the moment, still huge amount of code needs to be rewritten in order for system to work properly.
For now, I made a few screenshots for the most impatient ones:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41623885/images/pickup_preview_1.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41623885/images/pickup_preview_2.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41623885/images/pickup_preview_3.png</blockquote>

Great work :). Can't wait for the release!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 18:17:20 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Q-Ball</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-23803/page-5/?recent=541839#post=465014</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[All the basic things are working at the moment, still huge amount of code needs to be rewritten in order for system to work properly.
For now, I made a few screenshots for the most impatient ones:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41623885/images/pickup_preview_1.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41623885/images/pickup_preview_2.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41623885/images/pickup_preview_3.png]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:42:10 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by nitro_mint</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-23803/page-5/?recent=541839#post=464969</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Kaneco</i>
		<blockquote>Why can't just you, tf2pickup.net guys and shrike all work together and create a joint bug-free pickup site that supports HL, 6v6, bball and ultiduo?</blockquote>
This question would require an advanced psychological and a technical answer, which I will not bother with. In short thou: It's about egos and skills.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 04:10:44 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from kKaltUu</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

There are limits to the funds, experience and patience a person can have. There's your answer.</blockquote>

More people working together = less costs per team member and more collective experience across the team.

As for patience.. well.. you can't be a programmer without that]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 05 Aug 2013 17:24:59 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kKaltUu</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-23803/page-5/?recent=541839#post=464883</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Kaneco</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Why can't just you, tf2pickup.net guys and shrike all work together and create a joint bug-free pickup site that supports HL, 6v6, bball and ultiduo?  This has been bugging me since forever... We have had dozens of broken pickup sites, and not a single one that has retained community presence, we desperately need one major site that supports all competitive gamemodes and has a good quality control over players.

/rant</blockquote>

There are limits to the funds, experience and patience a person can have. There's your answer.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 05 Aug 2013 17:19:57 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Kaneco</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Q-Ball</i>
		<blockquote>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41623885/images/pickup_preview.png</blockquote>

Why can't just you, tf2pickup.net guys and shrike all work together and create a joint bug-free pickup site that supports HL, 6v6, bball and ultiduo?  This has been bugging me since forever... We have had dozens of broken pickup sites, and not a single one that has retained community presence, we desperately need one major site that supports all competitive gamemodes and has a good quality control over players.

/rant]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 05 Aug 2013 17:05:39 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by anti2</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Q-Ball</i>
		<blockquote>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41623885/images/pickup_preview.png</blockquote>

wut? when? where?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 05 Aug 2013 16:37:52 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kKaltUu</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-23803/page-4/?recent=541839#post=464703</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Q-Ball</i>
		<blockquote>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41623885/images/pickup_preview.png</blockquote>
gud jub, exactly what I was bugging you for :p]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 03 Aug 2013 21:35:46 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Q-Ball</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-23803/page-4/?recent=541839#post=464693</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41623885/images/pickup_preview.png]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 03 Aug 2013 19:32:17 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Russian Guyovich</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from fraac</i>
		<blockquote>This works if Crafz does a website for it and I bring in the people. Doesn't work otherwise.</blockquote>

Out of interest Fraac, how does your NLPG Mumble channel fare with Highlander pickups? I believe I've seen rooms for each class on there.

It's unfortunate to see this pickup channel being discontinued, but I can't say I am that surprised really. Apart from its initial launch, I've barely seen any promotion for it whatsoever. I know there's a front end website so people can connect to the IRC channel via web chat, but a couple threads on ETF2L/TF.TV/UGC buried in the middle of many others is insufficient to sustain player numbers. Although I think Skyride's opinion on who the intended target audience was for this pickup channel was obviously biased (as he likes to remind us so much about promotion of highlander), he was right. 

The impression I got is that it's supposed to be for experienced highlander players, but new players are also welcome. The reality is that if you want these new players to join then you have to engage them in some way - even something as little as reaching out to TF2 communities with player bases who either don't play highlander/6v6, or have in some form in the past (Highlander Community Challenge) would help in spreading the word. Perhaps asking ETF2L if you could have a banner in the Sponsors section would've went some way towards promotion as they did it for Pixel Pickup in the past, but that bot is now dead so the benefits are questionable :)

Anyway, big credit to Q Ball and the other guys involved in making this. It's always good to see people actually implementing ideas and not just suggesting them.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 09:06:55 +0100</pubDate>
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