ETF2L – Latest activity in “Logs.tf match stats”

ETF2L – Latest activity in “Logs.tf match stats” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-23587/ Reply by Kaneco https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-23587/page-7/?recent=495576#post=495576 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=23587&post=495576 Sun, 04 May 2014 23:58:45 +0200 Reply by jakeowaty https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-23587/page-7/?recent=495576#post=485487 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=23587&post=485487 Wed, 05 Feb 2014 06:18:14 +0100 Reply by Admirable https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-23587/page-7/?recent=495576#post=485482 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=23587&post=485482 Wed, 05 Feb 2014 02:55:37 +0100 Reply by enzyme https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-23587/page-7/?recent=495576#post=485481 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=23587&post=485481 Wed, 05 Feb 2014 02:24:06 +0100 Reply by Arie https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-23587/page-7/?recent=495576#post=485480 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=23587&post=485480 Wed, 05 Feb 2014 02:08:58 +0100 Reply by Cunlico https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-23587/page-7/?recent=495576#post=462478 Quoted from Sash

[...] No shit, Sherlock. People always tend to behave shitty if it is about numbers. Compare the behavior of players on a MGE server with points to one without and you will see what I mean. The stats won't say much as the logs aren't from a single source. Anyone can upload them and even faking is a possibility. Nevertheless there will be a bunch of people obsessing about them. [...] Exactly my point, but that won't keep people from using them.

Then you should agree with me that not having a useful (or interesting) feature because (some) people are retarded is dump.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=23587&post=462478 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 23:40:17 +0200 Reply by Bulow https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-23587/page-7/?recent=495576#post=462451 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=23587&post=462451 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:29:38 +0200 Reply by funkysash https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-23587/page-7/?recent=495576#post=462440 Quoted from Leif

Having good stats doesnt make you better anyway

No shit, Sherlock. People always tend to behave shitty if it is about numbers. Compare the behavior of players on a MGE server with points to one without and you will see what I mean. The stats won't say much as the logs aren't from a single source. Anyone can upload them and even faking is a possibility. Nevertheless there will be a bunch of people obsessing about them. Quoted from Leif

And people judging players according mostly to mere stats arent that good anyway, and may possibly lead you to estimate someone badly or prevented.

Exactly my point, but that won't keep people from using them.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=23587&post=462440 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:01:25 +0200 Reply by Cunlico https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-23587/page-7/?recent=495576#post=462436 Quoted from freshmeatt

[...] If wasting time is not a problem, than I can't see what else in the world could be.

Wasting time for? people playing low level mixes when they clearly are not? I thought this wasnt new.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=23587&post=462436 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:26:57 +0200 Reply by freshmeatt https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-23587/page-7/?recent=495576#post=462435 Quoted from Leif

I dont see how this could be much of a problem.

If wasting time is not a problem, than I can't see what else in the world could be.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=23587&post=462435 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:21:12 +0200 Reply by Cunlico https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-23587/page-7/?recent=495576#post=462430 Quoted from Sash

[...] This will probably lead to 2 things: -div3 Mixes playing div6 teams just to improve their overall stats -people basing their recruitment posts solely on their average damage.

I dont see how this could be much of a problem. If you play mixes just to improve your stats and then when trialing you perform a lot worse than your stats then you still dont give a better impression than you would normally give without average stats. Having good stats doesnt make you better anyway, and a deeper search on your logs could show if the teams were unbalanced. The fact of having good damage isnt a real problem either. First of all you deal good damage only if the match is balanced, because if you roll the opposing team you dont have time to gain much damage. Even if you deal let's say 8/9k damage that only means you are good for that division, but it doesnt mean you would do the same in a higher div (at least if the gap is 1 div or higher, but you may still perform well for example from mid-top 5 to low div 4). And people judging players according mostly to mere stats arent that good anyway, and may possibly lead you to estimate someone badly or prevented.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=23587&post=462430 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:34:10 +0200 Reply by Animal https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-23587/page-7/?recent=495576#post=462429 Quoted from Spike Himself

It doesn't count buffs. It's not the logs processing service being at fault, but rather simply the fact buffs don't appear in the logs at all. And apparently there is no way to make it so.

sizzling stats did it properly (medic hud healing was same as reported on site) before they removed buffs... so now we have no site that reports correct total healing done :( sad]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=23587&post=462429 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:28:12 +0200 Reply by Spike Himself https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-23587/page-7/?recent=495576#post=462426 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=23587&post=462426 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 15:51:00 +0200 Reply by fraac https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-23587/page-7/?recent=495576#post=462425 "medicguy triggered "healed" against otherguy (healing "24")" - and I'm not sure how there are multiple ways of adding up those numbers.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=23587&post=462425 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 15:50:28 +0200 Reply by Quell https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-23587/page-6/?recent=495576#post=462422 Quoted from Leif

Would it be possible to make a page for each player that shows the average stats of the player apart from all his logs?

kinda like this? (example for ugc) http://ugc.tf2itemtrader.com/stats.htm http://ugc.tf2itemtrader.com/Player.htm?steamId=76561197979955672]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=community&topic=23587&post=462422 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 15:18:32 +0200