The ETF2L ladder was a good idea when we first implemented it, but as soon as the next Season started neither players nor admins could commit to out in the time and effort required for it. So we've closed it down for a few weeks/months to review the whole thing and hopefully bring it up to an acceptable level of awesome. In the meantime though, there isn't any ladder. ESL Season VII is wrapping up, as is our own Season 9. Wireplay haven't announced anything about a new 6v6 season, so there is a reasonably large gap coming up, which a ladder could fit into nicely. Best of luck to Crown with it.

What if div3+ ladder games were as easy to arrange as div4/5/6 pcw's? :)

To be fair Skyride. ETF2L does not have a ladder. Its old one is defunct and has stopped signups and it’s been planning a new one since last year from what I can see. Just because you're planning to have something doesn’t make it real. Like, I’m planning to be a millionaire. It’s in the planning stages. So am I in fact a millionaire. No.

I don’t want to get all dickey about it because when I chatted to you in person at i42 you came across as a good lad and Dan said you do stuff for the community like host mumbles for people to use and the such. Crown is trying something. There is a potential gap in the "market" he’s trying to fill.

From a new persons point of view, it seems like the old guard don’t want anything to change so they can keep it how they like it. Which is why 1.6 died (unless you're in a pro team) DODS died, and is why CSS is on its knees. People need to get behind things otherwise it’s pointless in playing organised and everyone should just play 32 man public servers.

[...] Nor does ED from what I read ;)

ETF2L does not have a ladder.

IRC wars are called "mixes" for a reason - they're not competitive and most of the time, you play against a mixture of random people who've never met before but know you through a friend of a friend of a friend. Ladders are a way for play real wars against real teams, quickly. You can put your match up and within 10 minutes you can have a match scheduled for half an hour later. I don't think IRC wars are a big practice for what you'd really be facing in any sort of division on a major team based game like this, but i do however see your point, ladders need to be ran properly, and I think they seem to die because leagues like ETF2L forget about them and focus on the seasons, which is understandable, however this ladder, with the right support, will not flop. Thanks for your comment.