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    	    <title>Reply by CannonFodd3r</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-16263/page-8/?recent=292299#post=292299</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Swarlz wins this thread. Congratulation!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 16:50:38 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Iplaynaked</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-16263/page-8/?recent=292299#post=292297</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[As I feel I have contributed mainly to this conversation and offered the most important input therefore I would like to have the last word, which will be:-
"Discombobulate"]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 16:48:40 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by lclent</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-16263/page-8/?recent=292299#post=292295</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[lol,Monkeh  :DDDDDDDD u wrote same staff]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 16:38:40 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by lclent</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-16263/page-8/?recent=292299#post=292294</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[TURBo,u are sweet boy now :) I understand u complitely and such misunderstandings like  yesterday wont happen again :).I think we can close this thread and stop explaining  this situation 100 times.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 16:37:26 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Dukermons</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-16263/page-8/?recent=292299#post=292293</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I'm utterly gobsmacked this conversation is still going on.  Everyone has repeated themselves enough now, surely.

GG better luck next time.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 16:35:56 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by BRaH</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-16263/page-8/?recent=292299#post=292291</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[The reason why we are upset is because it wasnt a deliberate rule break, I assumed it was allowed as we were using etf2l config but it was my bad for not reading the rules. It's not like we chose to use paint train because we are evil bastards and want to win this game by cheating and it's not like we were losing in the first place. And I understand that we were late but I did pm alien in irc and nothing was posted in irc about our game being late. Tbh it would have been a more interesting final if we got through as it wouldnt mean fragnatik got an easy game to put themselves into the final.

Tl;dr next time make sure you have some admin who isn't playing to monitor the cup and make sure people are playing at the right time. And as for rage, what was the point you were 200% going to lose the next game... Such soar losers.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 16:33:51 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by lclent</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-16263/page-7/?recent=292299#post=292287</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[lol'd]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 16:22:00 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Iplaynaked</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-16263/page-7/?recent=292299#post=292282</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Oh god,
The terrible grammar, the spelling, THE SPOILING OF MY LANGUAGE.

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That's right - MY LANGUAGE RULE BRITANNIA!!!!!!!!!

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I Demand a TF2 Forum for TF2 PEOPLE!!!!

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DAMN NOOBS, COMING INTO MY GAME, STEALING OUR FRAGS?

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WAS MPUKPUING THE OTHER DAY, AND THERE IN MY!! MY!!!! PIKCUP CHANNEL WAS 5 NOOBS 5, I COULDN'T EVEN ADD TO THE PICKUP, I'M A HARD TF2ER WHY SHOULD THIS HAPPEN.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 16:06:27 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by KrimsonAer</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-16263/page-7/?recent=292299#post=292274</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from atomic-</i>
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I agree,problem was that we all were ingame,and just  had 10-15 min brakes or less,so we were too busy to know everything,because of that we wil ask somebody to help with that staff next time,but it was just 1 incident...</blockquote>

This is probably why you shouldn't have your team play in your own tournament. Or find some helpful admins.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 15:57:06 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by dennishag</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-16263/page-7/?recent=292299#post=292272</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from atomic-</i>
		<blockquote>Its truth,when game finishes 40 minutes late and we need to start next round,we have no time to watch demos,decision need to be made very quckly.Anyways there are 2 teams involved in this incident,so one side will be unhappy anyways...
This time u are unhappy and i understand you too and i understand your opponents</blockquote>

First comment you've made that actually made sense.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 15:52:59 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by lclent</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-16263/page-7/?recent=292299#post=292269</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Tornf4lk</i>
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as long as you are to terms and understand the mistake you made in not having available admins. I can understand why it is hard but that really just tells you that you shouldn't really compete in your own cup when you have no other stuff to back you up. I understand if the seeding for you was random or if you actually thought that it would be the best idea for the cup, but it still does sound fishy, no matter what your intentions really were. I however really liked the idea of a div 6-5 cup because it gives the lower skills a chance to win a cup :) Let's just hope you learn so your next tournament becomes even better! :) gl hf.</blockquote>
I agree,problem was that we all were ingame,and just  had 10-15 min brakes or less,so we were too busy to know everything,because of that we wil ask somebody to help with that staff next time,but it was just 1 incident...]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 15:51:40 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by dennishag</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from atomic-</i>
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oh,and we are so afraid from you,rly! so ofc we  gave default win to rage.EU to win them and get in final,ofc! just erad the rules next time and than register for cup IN time!</blockquote>

If you had a problem before the game that we didn't register in time, don't let us sign up next time? seems there is more than 1 thing that gave us the loss in this matter. we keep refering to the small rule break in hand. Where you as admins keep of the cup, keep refering to the late signup (Yes it was late, but you ok'd it) and that we where late for our 2nd game (No we wheren't, Rage.eu was if you did a little research on irc while the tournament is on) we only got mad cause of the rule break in hand, given the circumstances. So stop excusing your decision with other matters, that had nothing to do with the rule break it self. :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 15:51:36 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by S1M0N</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from atomic-</i>
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Its truth,when game finishes 40 minutes late and we need to start next round,we have no time to watch demos,decision need to be made very quckly.Anyways there are 2 teams involved in this incident,so one side will be unhappy anyways...
This time u are unhappy and i understand you too and i understand your opponents</blockquote>
as long as you are to terms and understand the mistake you made in not having available admins. I can understand why it is hard but that really just tells you that you shouldn't really compete in your own cup when you have no other stuff to back you up. I understand if the seeding for you was random or if you actually thought that it would be the best idea for the cup, but it still does sound fishy, no matter what your intentions really were. I however really liked the idea of a div 6-5 cup because it gives the lower skills a chance to win a cup :) Let's just hope you learn so your next tournament becomes even better! :) gl hf.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 15:35:52 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by lclent</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from d2m</i>
		<blockquote>
However, I do sympathise that when you're running a cup through an evening it is difficult to get all of the information you need to make a decision in just a matter of minutes. To confirm a decision like in a definitive manner, you'd likely have to watch an STV which you don't have time for at all.
Running online tournaments is not as easy as it looks, huh? :p Best of luck with your future efforts :)</blockquote>
Its truth,when game finishes 40 minutes late and we need to start next round,we have no time to watch demos,decision need to be made very quckly.Anyways there are 2 teams involved in this incident,so one side will be unhappy anyways...
This time u are unhappy and i understand you too and i understand your opponents]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 14:58:40 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Frix</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[+1 d2m, +1 atomic]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 14:50:25 +0200</pubDate>
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